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Is begging on the street illegal?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,304 ✭✭✭tomhammer..


    Homelessness and addiction are often intertwined

    Doesn't make them any less homeless



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭BoardsBottler


    indeed! and its often down to the individuals choice, do they wanna get back on the horse and change their life around? or do wanna enjoy the sweet highs they get and remain addicts for the rest of their lives without a care for whatever happens as a result of this selfish self-centered choice?

    i have every bit of compassion for a genuine homeless person, or for anyone actually who wishes to turn their life around and is serious about it.

    i'd rather help turn ones life around, than help feed ones addiction any day :D

    They just want the quick easy money cash grab recyclables and to up their recycling stats at your expense.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,304 ✭✭✭tomhammer..


    Addicts are genuinely homeless

    You seem opinionated as regards addicts tbh



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭BoardsBottler


    yeah because they're kicked out due to their addiction, but are you telling me all addcits don't live in homes? never heard of a crack house?

    There's some addicts who actually live in houses from the HAP scheme, but go out everyday to beg, get the bus and come home with a bed to sleep in and a roof over their head after a hard days work of pretending to be homeless

    if any addict would like to turn their life around for the better, i would happily support that 100%, infact even if they are not addicts i'd still help. Them being an addict has nothing to do with it, therefore i'm not being opinionated against addicts. i just know too much about them, thats all.

    They just want the quick easy money cash grab recyclables and to up their recycling stats at your expense.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,439 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    I think you should have look at the origin of why people become addicts , are they self medicating for trauma or mental I’ll health , is it exposure via family as in it’s seen as okay , is the area they grew up in , lack of family bond and so on.

    Not one addict ever set out to become an addict .



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭BoardsBottler


    i do look at the origin, infact i take an interest and ask them. of course there's many different possible reasons.

    i'm not really sure what argument you're making.

    as a professional and paid person who deals with homeless people, are there certain things your job prevents/does'nt allow you to do? in regards to homeless people

    They just want the quick easy money cash grab recyclables and to up their recycling stats at your expense.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 794 ✭✭✭Slightly Kwackers


    Maybe the "sweet free money" is doing a better service satiating an addicts craving or helping a family abroad to survive instead of being wasted on some pile of worthless dross that kept a marketing department that might have been employed usefully, churning out unwanted adverts that numb the mind more effectively than the addicts fix.

    Giving to the beggars in that case is a win, win. The more worthless the rubbish sold, the more resources are needed to dress it up to look, feel or smell desirable thus destroying the planet in the process.

    Instead of driving to work to make and advertise tarted up soap products and food, advertisers could get digging and do some useful work instead of assaulting the public with their inane messages.

    The grateful public would have more money for beggars, a nicer planet that might be around for the grand kids and the chance that some of the unwatchable junk on RTE is actually not too bad when uninterrupted by "the rattling of the stick in the swill bucket".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,439 ✭✭✭corner of hells




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭BoardsBottler


    like things you are specifically not allowed to do, or get involved in, or just anything in general that your job does'nt allow you to do. Anything your job stops you from doing, regarding the homeless/homeless people

    They just want the quick easy money cash grab recyclables and to up their recycling stats at your expense.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,245 ✭✭✭Archduke Franz Ferdinand


    organised begging in the Main Street of Gorey is an issue , one man on one side of the street and a woman on the other both of Roma origin , cardboard Sign “lm hungry, god bless”. A total scam kept going by the well intentioned but naive people who give them money. Now druggies also lying on the street and in doorways, openly urinating in the daytime in shop doors. Gardai either powerless or unwilling to deal with this



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 627 ✭✭✭Woodcutting


    I saw a fella get a fiver once and on another occasion he was given a note, I think a fiver but wasn't close enough to see . He has a council house and sold most of the furniture for drugs



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 627 ✭✭✭Woodcutting


    A fella once asked me had I anything for him shaking his cup. I asked him had he anything for me. He looked in the cup and said " I could only give you a little"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 242 ✭✭rowantree18


    While there are undoubtedly cases of real hardship leading to begging, a huge amount of it is organised and the profits filter up the chain to those in charge. Roma begging is a well documented example of this. Those actually begging get little, the major money funds "kings" or tribal leaders in the home country where opulent mansions are built in Roma villages. It's a business, like any other, and like any business, when there are no profits the business folds or moves elsewhere. I remember living in a nordic country where the city mayor appealed to people to not give to them, the profit dried up and they moved on. I'm all for a good social system helping those in genuine need - but organised begging should be stamped out.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    My area has a problem with aggressive beggars that come up to the car window when in McDs drive thru.

    They're the ones who annoy me, not those sitting quietly on the street.



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