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Leinster House Bicycle Shed

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,689 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    It’s no wonder so many long term politicians are retiring and not contesting the next general election - they know the place is about to fall down - as you say it’s the little things that get ya- well if SF want to get into office next time around, they’re making it easy for them



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,568 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    https://www.rte.ie/news/2024/0903/1468050-bike-shelter/

    It's gone up another grand, probably the cost of that yellow no parking bollard.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 929 ✭✭✭Baba Yaga


    holy shite…how the fcuk did that cost €336,000 THOUSANDS of our tax money??? made out of gold uprights and polished diamond for the roof??? have something very simular in work,wee bit bigger maybe,think they spent about 4 grand on it if that…between rte,the childrens hospital and now this,how many millions is that pished away…??never mind all the other spending on complete shite by our goverment departments…

    yo! donnie vonredactedpants,vlad putin,benji netanyahu,vic orban..you sirs are the skidmarks on the jocks of humanity!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,803 ✭✭✭John arse


    This little snowflake is gonna turn into a pretty big snowball methinks,stinks to high heaven!😤😤😤



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,949 ✭✭✭plodder


    Don't want to get side-tracked too much and I take your point about contractors gaming the system, which is why you have competitive tenders. Though it's possible in this case, it might have been over specc'd (like the children's hospital).

    But, are SF really going to be employing plumbers and carpenters directly as public servants? I find that hard to believe. Or if they are, do people expect they will be more or less efficient than private sector builders?

    “Fanaticism is always a sign of repressed doubt” - Carl Jung



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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 43,333 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    If you're suggesting it was Ryan then maybe provide evidence that he pushed for it whilst knowing the cost.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭thatsdaft




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,215 ✭✭✭Large bottle small glass


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    Where is the design and specification cost in the above table?

    If you want to let a contractor have free reign with his bill then don't have the design and specification tied down when signing contracts.

    Best guess is design was in house, loose as fcuk and the contractor kept charging for variations. Even then though

    A FOI request for Bill of quantities should be interesting. Other than the steel everything in that shed is off the shelf; and the steel isn't remotely complicated.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 53,172 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    maybe it was originally meant to house a large printer and got repurposed?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,669 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Ha that was a mad story.

    It did eventually get installed after building works for it to fit completed...seemingly no one knew what a tape measure was.

    A little wrinkle in that story that didn't receive much coverage.

    "The printer eventually got installed, but The Irish Times noted that some Oireachtas staff members have refused to be trained on operating the printer until they get a pay increase"



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,568 ✭✭✭✭Boggles




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 929 ✭✭✭Baba Yaga


    sweet sufferin shite…and if its anything like the brand spankin -sparkleing new cycle lane near where i live the feckin cyclists wont use it anyway! fcuk me pink,what a waste…

    yo! donnie vonredactedpants,vlad putin,benji netanyahu,vic orban..you sirs are the skidmarks on the jocks of humanity!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    from that article

    “However, the project stalled until February of 2019 when work started on the second phase, bringing the path to Newcomen Bridge at North Strand Road. That section, a 750m stretch, opened in mid-2020 after a spend of €8.9 million.”


    by the time this yellow gold brick paved cycle path reaches Galway its cost would probably be measured in units of National Children’s Hospital spent



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,628 ✭✭✭Augme


    At the moment any issue with plumbing inside a school, garda station, government department, local county Council office, state body is carried out by private sector. Why is having that carried out by public sector plumbers should at bad idea?

    The government made a decision to outsource IT works for the public sector and the cost of that is eye watering.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,014 ✭✭✭Hibernicis


    This from the wonderful Niall Toibin comes to mind.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,346 ✭✭✭carveone


    The thing about 30 million euro cycle paths is you're into the regions of millions and billions, which are hard to get your head around. But the public understand the smaller things, which is why they trip you up.

    Judging from the posts, 300 grand levels are understandable for minions like us; and then it becomes obvious when someone is taking the piss. I may not know how much a bike shelter costs but I know someone who does.

    As KevRossi said above, this could lead to a lot of other similar waste being uncovered, and by the trend of this thread, it's already happening.

    Post edited by carveone on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,669 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Government departments have very little choice but to out source a lot of IT tasks and projects, they just don't have the skill sets, competing on wages for skilled IT people is impossible.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 663 ✭✭✭Private Joker


    I'm involved in public procurement and with the checks and balances, there is no way this should have cost this much. It shows a complete lack of oversight and competence at best. I'd love to see the breakdown of the construction and installation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,548 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Because when the Government want anything built ie The Childrens Hospital it seems that the highest tender is always accepted.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,761 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    The QS fees are scandalous it wouldn't cost that to build 20 houses, I'm struggling to see 50k here.

    I presume BAM was the contractor for this.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,575 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    The Minister of State with responsibility for the office of public works Kieran O Donnell has sensed the outrage about this is growing and in order to distance himself from it has called for a full review of the costs.

    Someone is going to get hung for this and they most likely won't go down without a fight, hopefully this will be the opening of a rather large can of worms.

    The owner of the one bike pictured under the shelter yesterday has come forward to say the bike wasn't even properly sheltered.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,215 ✭✭✭Large bottle small glass


    The highest tender isn't the problem.

    It's a poor planning and lack of detail in the tender/specification documents which allows the contractor almost free reign to charge for variations as the design changes/is updated during construction.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,089 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    The owner of the one bike pictured under the shelter yesterday has come forward to say the bike wasn't even properly sheltered.

    Oh boo hoo.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 53,172 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    while you might not care about that person's bike (good for you!) maybe the point is that if the bike wasn't sheltered, then the bike shelter doesn't even qualify as a shelter.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    In my day we left bikes out in rain and wind

    We truly have reached first world problem stage



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 43,333 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    As childish as your response is, the original comment does show that the construction as designed wasn't fit for purpose which is often the case when it comes to cycling infrastructure. Then bizarrely people complain when cyclists don't use what they believe is perfectly good infrastructure!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,467 ✭✭✭wolfyboy555


    grab a bargain.

    http://www.adverts.ie/34855467



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,479 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Why did they only build it for 18 bikes? We have 160 TDs (174 after the next GE) and 60 senators... They're not all going to be able to park there



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭geographica


    You are right 👍 and Patrick O’Donovan before that



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,171 ✭✭✭geographica


    Oh it’s in an Irish hospital it probably cost a couple of million



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