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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭ledwithhedwith


    the dynamic pricing is funny , I got my standing tickets for 177 each but if I sold them for 350 quid I’d be considered a ballix. TM sold them for 415😂😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,348 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,346 ✭✭✭crl84


    The prices were stated ahead of time.
    They were stated when you got to the payment stage - that's ahead of time.
    There is no obligation to publish prices X hours in advance.
    You got to payment, you were given the price, you make a choice whether to purchase or not.
    So the CCPC is entirely correct that there's nothing for them to investigate.

    It's exactly the same as Aer Lingus advertising their winter sale with "Flights to London from €9.99", and when you get onto the website, choose your flights, you see that your Saturday flights are €50 and the less desirable ones on Tuesday at 11am are €9.99…….


    And UK prices came from SeeTickets/GigsAndTours from what I remember, nothing to do with any UK protection authority.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,394 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    Except on aer lingus the price is visible immediately, not after a 2 hour queue when you then have a very limited time to make a decision.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 503 ✭✭✭TenPicnics


    Ridiculous to compare it to flights, most of us never got to even see what tickets were available at what price, spending hours in queues, getting booted off for allegedly being a bot, finally getting to the almost-end of the tortuous process and then "something went wrong with the connection". That does NOT happen when booking flights, you see the various prices straight away when you pick a flight, its a matter of minutes, not hours/days.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,346 ✭✭✭crl84


    Irrelevant. It's displayed prior to purchase, as the CCPC stated.

    If the Aer Lingus site was facing enormous demand from people trying to book flights, it would be the exact same.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,346 ✭✭✭crl84


    That has zero to do with what the CCPC said. Prices are displayed prior to purchase. This is a stone cold fact.

    What you're whinging about is a technical issue of a website not being able to function due to the amount of traffic/demand it gets.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,594 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Never realised there were so many 'gullibles' in our little country.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,274 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    The difference is airlines use dynamic pricing to fund cheap tickets. People who otherwise can't afford to fly now can thanks to Ryanair and dynamic pricing.

    Starting at 125 and then going up is just gouging and I can't understand why some people are are so staunchly defending it. You are right though there is nothing to investigate but that doesn't make it ok.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,594 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    If people are gullible enough and so easily led by fake hype then ,hey, its their problem.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 520 ✭✭✭CuriousCucumber




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,411 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    I appreciate that it would be beneficial for consumers were TM to publish the prices prior to a consumer getting in an online queue for tickets etc, however the consumer is aware of the price they are paying for a ticket under the system used at the weekend - it's not "hidden" from the consumer. They are told what's left for their position in the queue and the price of it - it's up to the consumer to decide whether to pay it or not.

    Now if someone told me prior to getting up at 7:00 on Satudarday that there were X tickets available for 86 euro, Y tickets available for 150 euro, Z tickets available for 400 euro then some additional price points for various VIP packages, would I have gotten up and joined the queue anyway - probably.

    Also, publishing the prices prior to going on sale isn't going to change the fact that there were at most 163,000 tickets on sale for Croker and approx 500,000 or more tickets to meet demand.

    You'd still have acres of people annoyed cos they didn't get tickets.



  • Site Banned Posts: 1,331 ✭✭✭Yvonne007


    The OH's friend got 4 standing tickets for Sunday. Non-vip, no benefits, just the "In-Demand" standing tickets.

    €1749 in total.

    Sickening.

    Worst thing is, I probably would have done the same if I had got there in time.

    As a previous poster retweeted from Stan Collymore, it would have been the dopamine hit. I would have had serious buyers remorse.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39 slideaway


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,029 ✭✭✭jj880


    No. No. According to those on here as long you clearly display your price and say you are "selling at what you think is market value" its fine. No-one is forced to buy after all. Or maybe that only applies if you are Ticketmaster 😂

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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 11,320 Mod ✭✭✭✭squonk


    How you cannot see the issues here baffles me. Perhaps you don’t wish to.

    Are Lingus aren’t going to have a huge surge of people arriving at there site, I’ll give you that however that could be mitigated by publishing of prices the day before for instance or a current pricing ticker for the benefit of those in the queue. Whatever way it’s done is a v lack of infrastructure and public service.

    With Aer Lingus I see the price points relatively quickly and can decide at my leisure what price point suits me. I can also go back after purchase and skter my booking if I so wish. Let’s compare with TM where you are shoved onto a queue and given only a number. You’re there for hours as was the case Saturday. No further information is provided. Your number ticks down. Perhaps you’ll get kicked off, perhaps you don’t. Finally you’re presented with ticket prices far in excess of reasonable expectations. You’ve already invested hours in this process. It promotes panic buying but, just in case it isn’t enough, a timer starts amping up the pressure and your time window is closing. If you do purchase, god help you if you change your mind with a ‘generous’ 24 hour cooling off period with no great prices to get your money back in place.

    Complaining about people whinging about the website is moot. Plenty of other organisations deal with high traffic. You don’t see Amazon making you queue to get in. Surges are the nature of TMs business and it’s not that they can’t cope, it’s that they don’t want to because queues promote pressure purchasing. Plenty of cloud based solutions exist to deal with surging. It’s no argument.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,274 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Well I'm more concerned for the people who can't afford a dynamically priced ticket and don't press buy. You would hope the bands would also care but obviously not in this case.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,615 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,411 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    I am not defending the practice - I don't believe anyone is - what we are saying is if you don't like it - It's not a life or death requirement to go to a concert, you can decide not to engage, there has to be a bit of personal responsibilty attached to this.

    If you hate it that much, boycott the artist altogether.

    There are very obviously people with the means to pay and queue up for tickets priced at these levels.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 503 ✭✭✭TenPicnics


    It really isn't "whinging", and even when flights are in high demand you can see immediately what the price is.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,411 ✭✭✭✭kippy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,346 ✭✭✭crl84


    Well you don't know that the €125 tickets aren't being subsidised by the small number of dynamic priced tickets, as we have no clue how much Oasis want for these gigs, or what MCDs costs are for putting the gigs on etc…..

    Yes, it's not OK, but many things in our capitalist society aren't…..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25 Jesus Murphy


    Waste of 2 grand, amazing what panic buying can do.

    Ticketmaster and the promoter played people like fiddles.

    You are 50,000 in the que for your €150 ticket, several hours later you are 3 in the que but unfortunately the only tickets available are €450 'in demand' tickets oh and by the way you have 2 minutes to make up your mind.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,346 ✭✭✭crl84


    Because there isn't 7 million people trying to access a website at one time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,937 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    buy a phone I can clearly see various price levels 

    A phone is not a finite commodity. Samsung/Apple/whoever will make as many phones as the market demands and so anyone can buy one at the advertised price.

    On the other hand, a concert ticket is extremely finite. When demand massively outstrips supply, there’s no way to meet the demand.

    Anyone who has ever bought a house has experienced dynamic pricing. Estate agent puts it up for 500k, house sells for 450 or 550. Book a flight to Edinburgh for a random Tuesday in January then book one for the Friday of the Six Nations weekend. A hotel in Portlaoise in January versus the Saturday night of Electric Picnic… these are far more relevant comparisons for concert tickets. Dynamic pricing is everywhere, it isn’t new, it’s basic free market economics. We’re just not used to it for concerts, that’s the only difference.

    If people panic buy just because there’s a timer in the corner of the screen, then that’s on them. Anyone I know who got the option for 400 euro tickets declined it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,676 ✭✭✭✭Exclamation Marc


    You paint ticket buyers as victims who don't have the mental capacity or nous to walk away from tickets. If you're an adult who doesn't have the capacity to rationalise something and make a judgement call on a price, you shouldn't be in charge of the credit card.

    There are plenty of people here who got to the inflated ticket prices and saw them and said 'not for me' and walked away.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 11,320 Mod ✭✭✭✭squonk


    So any supplier selling a finite quantity and manipulating buyers in the process svd finally using high pressure tactics to push someone into an inflated price purchase is grave, it’s the buyers fault? Right.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,274 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    The only time I ever spent over 100 for a ticket was Springsteen last year because I was desperate to see him just once. It wasn't dynamic pricing either. So I suppose in a way I am boycotting the big gigs.

    It's just full of the well heeled just there to be seen and buying into the hype instead of proper fans when you start sht like this.

    There are always people with the "means and willing to pay" but that's a bit too Dickensian for me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭StrawbsM


    how long were you queuing before you secured tickets at those prices?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,215 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    I saw a UK based Oasis fan saying they wouldn't dream of going near the concerts. They expect it to be little more than a glorified karaoke evening where the stadium sings along to Wonderwall and Don't Look Back In Anger etc and you can't even hear the band play.



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