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Anyone else find modern concerts a bit depressing?

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  • Posts: 3,330 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Phones phones and more phones.

    Recording crap videos that the morons will never watch again, mostly with a view of other phones and the backs of people's heads.

    Chris Martin asked the crowd to all put away their phones for one song on Friday, queue a heap of morons holding their phones aloft to record the song.

    What's wrong with watching the performance and living in the moment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,047 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    My 1st gig was the last Trip to Tipp. This year is 30yrs of Banie01 going to gigs. The vibe and the behaviour certainly has changed. Some acts are far better at handling the "new" reality of gigging, adapting to the audience and shaping their show to crowd expectations.

    Then, there are a few acts that really are throwbacks to what great gigs are and how they pull the crowd along with them. As a recent example, the 3 Thomond park gigs in July.

    Snow Patrol engaged, entertained and had a really brilliant show. As did CMAT playing support for Paolo Nutini, yet Paolo and Liam Gallagher were very poor IMO. I expected on prior experience, Snow Patrol to be the filler to the 2 lad's triumph, I was very wrong.

    An older example, but one that runs true with many more rock acts, The Darkness, no matter the venue always an entertaining and utterly involved show that pulls people along. Sometimes it's hard to resist the urge to take a photo or video...

    But relying on the feelings an act can evoke, to shape the way we remember a gig?

    Gives a far, far better memory than a screen.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,724 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Don’t mean to just echo what others have said… but really smaller gigs are the way to go. It’s just a much better experience at a fundamental level - it’s so much easier for an artist to win over a crowd when there’s only a few hundred people there as opposed to 80,000. It’s better for engagement, it’s better for sound quality, and bad behaviour is much less likely to be tolerated. You’re not watching the concert through a big screen. And the vast majority are very affordable too, compared to a Croker gig for example.

    It’s the same as going to the cinema - phones and talking are not tolerated at smaller, independent cinemas as most are there just to watch the film, but the vibe at a multiplex tends to be different.

    There’s a big caveat here though, and it’s that it’s kind of a city-centric position to say all this. It’s one thing to be in or near Dublin, Cork and Galway and have a few nice small venues you can easily access, but it’s a different proposition when you live rurally or in a smaller town. When you have to pay a lot more for accommodation and transport, it’s no wonder people are more willing to splash out for the big ‘event’ gigs - which in turn leads to higher demand for those same gigs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,585 ✭✭✭Choochtown


    Shhhhhh Stillill!!!

    It's been difficult enough to get tickets the last few years without you bloody advertising it here. 😉



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,735 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    I just don't really go to arena shows anymore, they've moved more towards being a commercial spectacle than a gig really. Coldplay being the ultimate example of this with all their flashy lights and gimmicks.

    I do remember The Point feeling like more of a gig venue back in the day, rather than the arena venue it's become. Cannot stand shows there now.

    Like others have said, smaller venues for the win.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,499 ✭✭✭Stillill42




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,873 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    There are venues like debarras in clonakilty, the spirit store dundalk, st lukes, kennys bar lahinch and many many more beside.


    Take your €400 oasis ticket and have a weekend in any of those places.

    Ive seen Luka Bloom and mick flannery in the last year in small venues €25-€40 quid a ticket and they put on a better show than any of that shite in crokepark.


    The Irish band Amble should be on everybodys radar, or the Mary Wollopers a mix of new modern, old, classic, energetic, intimate and none of the massive crowd massive money racket.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,300 ✭✭✭Shakyfan


    On the subject of phones I went to see the Saw Doctors in Belfast last weekend. There weren't that many phones but at one point there were two people in front of me who decided to record one of the songs. Both turned round to capture the crowd aound them and as they turned there was a point where they were pointing their phones at each other. Would have looked ridiculous when they watched it back. The talking gets me more than the phones. A couple of the outdoor shows I was at during the summer I seemed to spend most of the evening moving to get away from people chatting and ending up next to other **** doing the same. If you want to chat to your mates over a drink with a bit of music in the background go to the fuckin' pub or sit in the house.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,068 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    People are a lot more controlled today. More conformist in many ways.

    Not half the sense of individuality or character or letting lose.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 285 ✭✭AnnieinDundrum


    I asked a couple of lads near me at Bruce Springsteen to please continue their chat elsewhere… we were on the pitch in RDS and there were lots of empty seats. They shouted that I was homophobic and started yelling that I was anti gay. Eh nothing to do with noise… I’m an equal opportunities anti chat at gigs… given their size compared to me I was a tad worried but my quick thinking bestie yelled at them to leave her wife alone and put her arms around me.
    they moved away and we enjoyed the rest of the gig.


    but it’s hard to take a stand sometimes.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 hob79132


    Was at Air in Trinity in June standing fairly near the front. About half way through four women barged their way in front of us. No problem there (standing gig and all), except they spend the rest of the concert talking to each other and taking selfies. WTF !!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,103 ✭✭✭lumphammer2


    Over priced …. over hyped … over rated …. and yes depressing …. not a fan of most modern music to be honest …. it is mostly the same old sound and instrumentation …. will gladly watch DVDs of long dead singers like Elvis, Ray Charles and Charlie Rich doing their concerts before forking out 100s on depressing modern music acts' overpriced gigs ….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,896 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    It sounds like you're just going to the same old bands from years ago, and they've turned from an exciting event into something that parents hype up to their kids who go along on a sort of box-ticking exercise and need to get phone footage to prove they were there.

    Just wait till oasis next year. Instead of the fans turning to each other and saying "This is amazing", they'll be saying "do you remember when". Then they'll get the pictures and videos to prove they were there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,896 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    There's the people who have no interest in any form of music, but they just have to go to any big event that's being talked about, so they'll go to Taylor swift, Coldplay, Oasis and whatever other gigs are hyped up. Add that to the friends of fans you mention, and it's adding up to some **** crowds.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,278 ✭✭✭reubenreuben




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,896 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    It did look like everyone had fun, but I did feel bad for them that their concert experience was conducted through a screen, albeit a giant one at the side of the stage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,073 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Huge issue these days are the phones.

    Ppl whipping out the phone -cue - “guess where I am ? GUESS WHERE I AM? I’m AT THE BIG CONCERT!! THE BIG GIG!! YEAH. MARY IS HERE WITH ME. WE BOUGHT SOME MERCH! YEAH!” Etc etc etc while the gig carries on regardless

    As well - drink another huge issue. People pushing and shoving past you while you watch the gig, so that they can queue for overpriced “p1ss wasser” commercial lager. It’s like people are dying of the thirst such is the rushing and shoving.

    Then shoving past you with 3 or 4 pints spilling everywhere at every step of the way.

    Grrr!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25 Jesus Murphy


    Social media happened, it created a very vacuous population who wants to be 'seen' at things and care not for participating. They care not for the music or band but it's very important to them to have several videos at it for their instagram.

    I agree, I use to remember moshing and slam dancing at gigs but it's become much more rare, people have become gentrified and soft. Overall I think people have become softer and more emasculated. A case in point I seen at a Muse concert. The gig was completely packed. People were jumping around, there was a few 'woke' type teenagers tried telling people to stand still and that they were encroaching on their reserved 'spots'.

    Apparently now you can reserve 'spots' at a thronged packed gig, who knew? That's a problem at gigs now, fools who think they can 'reserve' spots at standing gigs or get upset if someone else stands in front of them. Are they honestly that stupid they don't realize they are standing in front of hundreds or thousands of people themselves?

    Apparently so.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,074 ✭✭✭✭fits


    was at orbital in vicar street in May. No phones out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,499 ✭✭✭Stillill42


    I'm not sure what you're basing the 'most modern music' comment on. Do you listen to much? Or are we talking about the bandwagon stuff. Because they're clearly two different things. Loads of brilliant music out there at the moment. Off to Melts in a couple of weeks. Great young band, 17 euro ticket, I mean that stuff is happening every day of the week in the real world. Oasis is not the real world.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 149 ✭✭Kincora2017


    nah, you were right. I was there and it was crap



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,896 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    I've seen Oasis twice. Crap both times.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,074 ✭✭✭✭fits


    I’ve seen them twice as well ( I think). Not very memorable but was a long time ago!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,268 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    Irish gigs were on a par with south America for liveliness and excitement because we were a backward kip, as the economy grew we end up with a social media generation who are more image conscious and bland.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,924 ✭✭✭HBC08


    I went to see Bono on his book tour concert a couple of years ago.

    They took phones off people going in,changed the whole dynamic and really added to the experience.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,696 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Yeah talking is a curse - and not just talking, shouting.
    The Iveagh gardens gigs are notorious for groups of people to meet up and have a social night out catching up- they don’t look at the concert/ just drink beer and yap all evening - it’s incredibly annoying.
    Thankfully year on year there are less gigs that interest me so I don’t have to endure such nonsense



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 503 ✭✭✭Annani


    If I’m standing and someone starts a big conversation next to me I give it a minute then I move! I find the closer to to front the more people are into the artist.

    The phone thing doesn’t bother me too much. If they want to look at a live concert through their phone it’s kind of their loss. However I can see why it’s irritating for those of us who remember concerts without phones.

    I find the chatting like they’re at home in their kitchen way worse.

    I was at Arcade Fire in July at malahide. The talking during support which was Echo and the Bunny Men was crazy but when Arcade Fire came on it was like a switch went on and people were really engaged. It was an amazing gig and the crowd were amazing too so it’s not every gig.

    Gigs 2025: Flaming Lips, Pulp, Kaleidoscope, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic. Wolf Alice



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25 Jesus Murphy


    And who forces you to participate? The mosh pit is tiny and can very easily be avoided at any gig.

    Moshing is safe provided there is room and people aren't scum and help anyone up who falls down which is the norm.

    Reason a girl died at the Smashing Pumpkins 30 odd year ago is the old point depot was a death trap with crowd control barriers at front and sides creating a pen, people hemmed in and people coming down from seating overcrowding the standing area. All this led to serious overcrowding and an unfortunate death not people moshing or crowd surfing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,278 ✭✭✭reubenreuben


    I was at that. Arcade fire were great and the crowd. Good ticket price too. None of the ripping off from the Gallaghers either.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,288 ✭✭✭Thrashssacre


    Phones definitely have there part to blame, was at a swans gig last year and it was so refreshing being in an audience that was immersed in the music and not focused on recording it for later.



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