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What’s your most controversial opinion? **Read OP** **Mod Note in Post #3372**

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,352 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    you want them to now create places to pull in specifically so motorists can check their phones?

    that is a controversial opinion!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,034 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    IF they also brought in much heavier penalties for using the phone whole driving. Yeah.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,034 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Controversial opinion:

    I'm not impressed by criminals who think they're doing something moral by attacking sex offenders in prison. They're in prison because they've been deemed a threat to the community and because they committed crimes against the community. ALL of them, not just the sex offenders.

    If they think they're able to draw a moral line in the sand with them on the side of the normal law abiding people, and this makes them good members of society, them there wrong. They're just continuing to be thugs inside prison.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,034 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Ah yeah, fair enough. Some people are just easily frightened or anxious.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,352 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    how about we just bring in the heavier fines? and expect motorists to be adult enough to be able to avoid looking at their phone 'every ten or fifteen minutes'?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,034 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Sure. You could do that. The more successful way to get behaviour change is to offer a facility to change behaviour.

    I don't suppose anyone will need to pull in EVERY 10 or 15 minutes. But you know you can call someone back in 15 minutes when you get a call.

    Maybe you prefer the authoritarian hard line, but I usually prefer voluntary compliance backed up with law, rather than simply relying on threat of law.

    Each to their own. Are the government suggesting increased penalties for using the phone while driving?



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,352 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    authoritarian because i don't think we should provide nonsense infrastructure for motorists? if you say so.

    give me a context where if a driver needed to check their phone, they would not be ten or fifteen minutes from somewhere to pull in and safely do so; if i want/need to do so, i am able to do so even without dedicated 'phone checking' laybys. it's never been a problem before.

    who would police these laybys, to ensure people are genuinely using them just to take calls, and not simply being taken up as free parking spaces by motorists?

    i take back my assertion that your opinion is controversial. it's not controversial, it's just a ludicrous idea.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,034 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    I think you missed the point of the post, insofar as you didn't respond to it at all.

    I presume there are already lots of filling stations, and laybys which could be used. Probably not much change needed, which is great.

    Why do you want to police the laybys now?you're made for being policed.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,352 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    I clearly didn't get the point of your post so - I thought you were saying 'if we're going to clamp down on illegal use of phones while driving, it's only fair that we boost the opportunity of legal use of phones by providing laybys', but obviously there's more to it than that?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,781 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    I’ve driven from Cork to Dublin and other similar distances and never had any problems not physically interacting with the phone whilst driving….

    Facebook, twitter, TikTok, WhatsApp… your life won’t crumble if you are inactive and can’t read messages or interact with people or those services for a few hours….



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,987 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    all those apps are designed to be addictive, so thats exactly what we re doing with them, thank fcuk ive never used them, ive enough sh1te in my life….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,034 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Yeah you missed it.

    It was about voluntary compliance vs just relying on punishment.

    You seem to favour the pure positive reinforcement of a negative stimulus. I think it's sensible to facilitate compliance rather than just punish.

    Not to worry.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,403 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl


    New cars where everything is screen based are a massive distraction for drivers also. Car too hot? Look.at the screen to change the temperature. Wrong radio station? Look.at the screen to change the stations.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,352 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    i don't think i missed anything so - regardless of what i think about 'facilitating compliance', your idea of 'facilitating compliance' is to provide laybys every ten to fifteen minutes of driving to allow them to use their phones.

    like i said, it's a ludicrous idea, and redundant also.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,352 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    apparently the 'next gen' of euro NCAP regulations will dock a full star off a car's rating if certain basic functions in the car are not accessible through physical controls (i.e. ones that can be operated with muscle memory)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,034 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,569 ✭✭✭Cordell


    Wrong topic delete pls.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,781 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Most new cars you can change the radio station, take a phone call without removing your hand off the wheel or looking at anything…

    As regards temperature control, a second to look at the controls and you’ve turned it on / off or changed it.

    You have to take your eyes off the road in front of you to routinely check the mirrors, as is the law, not optional.

    So glancing at a panel of buttons to turn on aircon for about 1 second if required, is not a big deal.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,328 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    Don’t agree. Volume needs to be a roller, aircon up/down gotta be real buttons for me. I change those settings too often to be looking at a screen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,587 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    I'd agree with you largely, controls with feedback and that don't require going through menus are absolutely needed. In relation to volume though, I'm fine with it being on the steering wheel. I've never adjusted from the screen. 😂



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,352 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    from a quick google, the changes to euro NCAP seem to be a bit of a paper tiger - they seem to only relate to actual driving controls, and i suspect very few car manufacturers have moved driving controls to touchscreens?

    "What that means is that cars that don’t meet certain criteria, such as allowing the driver to activate the turn signals, hazard lights, horn, windshield wipers and eCall SOS feature without prodding the touchscreen will be unable to achieve a 100 percent score."

    https://www.carscoops.com/2024/03/has-touchscreen-tech-gone-too-far-euro-ncap-thinks-so/

    so playing with the aircon, radio, etc., would still be fully manageable through a touchscreen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 668 ✭✭✭highpitcheric


    im ok with the new bottle caps.

    they can be inconvenient, but measured against the old caps which you had to place down and then pick back up, or carry with the risk of dropping, the new design is on aggregate the more lazy-friendly.

    No more disappearing cap. No more looking under the couch and wondering where the fk.

    No more picking up a cap with a hair and a cornflake stuck to it.

    Bailey had a borderline personality" based on "narcissism, psycho-rigidity, violence, impulsiveness, egocentricity with an intolerance to frustration and a great need for recognition".

    • Psychiatrist Jean Michel Masson and psychologist Katy Lorenzo-Regreny


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,085 ✭✭✭z80CPU
    Darth Randomer


    Those of YOU who put on grave hard facial expressions with every rain shower:

    You should display on the breast of your raincoat a line medals paper or whatever for each shower of rain / drizzle you've been through.

    Well Adobe well done etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,313 ✭✭✭randd1


    Fake tan makes a person look trashy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    I don't see the need to have them on products you'd only have in the fridge particularly milk. They should only be on drinks where you might drop the cap outdoors.

    Controversial opinion: I find grown adults who drink bottles of pop and packets of crisps, how will I put it, a bit juvenile. And I don't get how people can eat meals with a drink that is basically liquid sugar. Yuck, I feel ill at the the thought of it. I grew out of all that naturally without even trying.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,569 ✭✭✭Cordell


    And real tan is even worse, it increases the risk of getting melanoma and it ages the skin prematurely. White skin is beautiful.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,106 ✭✭✭Greyfox


    With no cap theirs a small chance milk could get contaminated. I agree with your second paragraph



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 668 ✭✭✭highpitcheric


    well look at you sniffing wine and discussing textures like a big boy.

    Bailey had a borderline personality" based on "narcissism, psycho-rigidity, violence, impulsiveness, egocentricity with an intolerance to frustration and a great need for recognition".

    • Psychiatrist Jean Michel Masson and psychologist Katy Lorenzo-Regreny


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,978 ✭✭✭growleaves


    We should bring back duels.

    "Sir, you have misgendered me. I demand satisfaction. Choose your weapon."



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭mikemac2


    Not controversial at all

    Everyone should work at least six months in a customer service position. That education will last you a lifetime. For the rest of your life you will treat people with respect.

    When I was a barman the ordinary working people were sound to me. The extremely rich people in the town (like the owner of the cement works) were nice and kind. The worst customers were the middle class new money, own a few flats around town jumped up snobs who treated me like dirt. What business acumen did they show to get their wealth? None, they just married a smart builder and these "ladies who leisure" do not even work.

    We do not need military service but a lot of people sure do need 6 months working retail! Looking back that was a lousy, minimum wage, mopping toilets, serving drunks job but I learned a life lesson and so can others



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