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BBC Scandal - Huw Edwards formally suspended over payment of explicit images of teenager Read OP*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,473 ✭✭✭amandstu


    Interesting article.There don't seem to be any comments ,though.

    Might that be for legal reasons?

    We had a teacher at school who used to invite pupils back to his house for tea parties.

    He used to take medication (as the gossip went) for his affliction.

    That was back in the 60s.



  • Site Banned Posts: 5,279 ✭✭✭political analyst


    Were the pupils' parents aware of those tea parties?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,473 ✭✭✭amandstu


    Interesting queston but I have no idea.For us it was a topic of conversation/banter as to who would be invited to the next one.

    He was quite open about it and would offer advice in class as to how we should not cut our hair(presumably bc he thought it looked attractive on some of us)

    I never got an invite but would not have entertained the idea .But some of us seemingly did (some of us were boarders and maybe they went more readily)

    I was a day pupil.

    Another in our class was actually murdered by a man he was seeing**(think he killed himself as well).

    No connection to the school

    **I assumed he must have been doing it for money but have no idea really.It wasn't in the papers.

    Post edited by amandstu on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,661 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,688 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
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    The texts must have been particularly bad to get fired so quickly



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,701 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    Honest to God, has the BBC got NO HR department???!!!!

    Their HR department must be worse than CTU's in "24"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,445 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    This didn't become public until they fired him. So it was handled by the HR department, I presume. Who else would have handled it and investigated it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,701 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    Well it was just a (Poor) joke about the amount of scandals they have been having over the years and their hiring/research practices



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,370 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    It's a massive blow for JJ.

    He was on the pigs back at the Beeb, huge money and in cushy jobs.

    He was tipped as favourite to take over presenting MOTD after Lineker.

    Now looks like it's all gone, all over a few texts, allegedly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,473 ✭✭✭amandstu


    Do you think they should ask an applicant about their past sexual behavioural practices when they take the decision to hire a new presenter?

    Should they hire private detectives?(I assume they can do their own internet research and that this is commonly done in most businesses)

    Interview his wife?

    Any more sensible suggestions?

    I think it was mentioned in the thread earlier that the BBC's number of bad choices may not be unusually high or low for a very large organization like them- but I don't know and I don't think others do either.

    It may transpire that his transgressions are very minor and that BBC has "got its reaction in first"

    Will be interesting to find out if Jenas fights this(says in the metro article he was fuming)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,661 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    No excuses, he's married, he's in a position of power, then why be hitting up young members of staff. I'm sure Shearer, Ian Wright, Lineker don't do these things. Good riddance



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 21,931 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    Was it younger members of staff, i didn't see that confirmed? I'm not condoning it either way, he shouldn't have been texting anyone like that.

    He can't be the sharpest knife in the drawer after seeing the Schofield and Edwards sagas play out if this all happened after these became public knowledge.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,661 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    ''Sacked BBC presenter Jermaine Jenas has “not got a leg to stand on” according to BBC insiders who claim he has no grounds to challenge being axed by The One Show and Match of the Day. The 41-year-old presenter was dropped from both shows with immediate effect after it emerged he had abused his position by sending “suggestive” messages to juniors on staff . And BBC bosses are confident they have “absolute evidence” that he will struggle to refute.''

    I guess if they refer to someone as ''junior'' they must be under 18. Junior age range is 14- 17, unless they are using the word junior to reflect someone who is not in the job long.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,688 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
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    I took “junior” to mean early 20s first rung on the cooperate ladder - ie the “runners” as they call them.
    If they were minors, the police would be involved at this stage- I don’t believe that’s the case

    But whatever was said in those texts I’d imagine is indefensible



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,593 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    "Juniors" would refer to low/entry-level staff where the issue isn't so much age, but balance of power, such as women who would feel uncomfortable about reporting such messages or ordering him to stop because he's a presenter on the show and could put their jobs at risk.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,045 ✭✭✭Xander10


    That's what is rumoured. Offering to help advance junior members careers for favours



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,688 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
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    If true, that would totally explain the rapid and ruthless response from the BBC and his management company - he might win a legal technicality on process in a Labour court but it doesn’t sound like he has a chance in hell of getting his job no less a broadcasting career back - as we’ve seen it takes a lot to get sacked by the Beeb



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,958 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    He is a terrible pundit.

    Talksport level at best.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 219 ✭✭bartkingcole


    They should all have training on what is and what is not acceptable. Maybe the culture in these organisations is the issue but times have moved in rightfully - even the terminology of ‘juniors’ is archaic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,661 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,958 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Jenas insisted "I did nothing illegal" and argued the messages were with "two consenting adults". "With one she made it clear she was interested," he added.

    Well Jermaine that's only 1 consenting adult isn't it?

    Running off to The Sun to do an exclusive is peak cringe and just a bad idea.

    That said the hotel room he looks like he is now living in looks nice.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,688 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
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    The PR machine is ticking over nicely - we’ve seen this play out in the past where the initial issue was not illegal but subsequent investigations or stories pointed to something more untoward - not saying this will happen this time or illegality is anywhere at play but considering there is more than one young woman not happy with his way of engaging let’s say, it will only be a matter of time before one of the tabloids have the full detail on their front page- sounds like it won’t make for pretty reading.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,688 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    He’d be an idiot to sue the BBC- he obviously hasn’t read the staff handbook and code of conduct which every corporation has in place - if you “bombard” a fellow employee with the sort of texts alleged in this case, don’t expect to keep your job- a 5 day investigation might not sound a long time before sacking someone but this behaviour obviously wasn’t on the low end of the scale if this is the outcome - corporations don’t tend to fire people without just cause - it’s not worth the hastle in the Labour courts

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13775537/Jermaine-Jenas-considers-suing-BBC-Axed-star-insists-did-illegal-sex-texted-female-One-staffers-battles-save-career-marriage-ex-model-wife-Ellie.html



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,561 ✭✭✭skimpydoo


    I have a funny feeling The Sun have a lot more scandal on Jermaine and threatened to publish it if he didn't do an exclusive interview with them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,370 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    The OH is standing by him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,473 ✭✭✭amandstu


    Sentencing on Monday.

    An interesting piece by Katie Razzall on the BBC website

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4gegnqd4z3o



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,312 ✭✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    Interesting, but not a great piece, about Huw Edwards. It could do without the opening and closing few sentences at least

    This bit struck me

    Just last week, he apparently updated his Linkedin profile to say he is "available for no charge to charities and not-for-profit organisations" (the profile appears to have since been deleted). That raised eyebrows among some colleagues - an insight perhaps into the mind of someone they once thought they knew.

    reminded me of a documentary I saw about Gary Glitter, he was asking the interviewer before they sat down to properly start "should I wear the wig, or not…? which looks best?" and the interviewer was thinking 'it doesn't **** matter what the **** you wear, you're still a **** *****'



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,395 ✭✭✭✭volchitsa


    You'd expect so, but the ongoing rape trial in France is of a 70 year-old man who began to drug and rape his wife "only" a decade ago.

    So I don't know: could it be coming from older men with a declining sexual life developing an internet porn habit?

    Or maybe it's just the internet porn habit on its own, and it's happening at all ages, but a 70 year-old just gets caught more easily, not being so good at hiding their internet history? (Something that's been mentioned at his trial - that he wasn't actually very good with computers.)

    I think they are men who already had it in them, but that the internet in particular has led/enabled them to develop their worst instincts in recent years. There'll probably be some evidence of stuff from the past, but not necessarily very much.

    "If a woman cannot stand in a public space and say, without fear of consequences, that men cannot be women, then women have no rights at all." Helen Joyce



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,473 ✭✭✭amandstu


    It hopefully reflects the vantage point of his colleagues who are also wordsmiths.

    Would be interesting to know if her piece was edited by the BBC for any reason other than legal.

    It is a "shame" that there were real victims in this case (thinking of the underage pictures and how they were obtained) or this trial might be a really fascinating insight into the mindset of man who seemed intimately known to the general public and was very gifted and articulate it seems.

    He does still seem to consider himself a public figure. Was his offer to appear for charity intended (or genuinely meant) as an act of contrition?

    Clearly nobody would want him so it seems strange to me that it was put up at all.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,473 ✭✭✭amandstu


    "

    It is a "shame" that there were real victims in this case (thinking of the underage pictures and how they were obtained) or this trial might be a really fascinating insight into the mindset of man who seemed intimately known to the general public and was very gifted and articulate it seems

    Edit: just realized it is just a sentencing and that there is no trial as such bc he plead guilty.

    So no insight into his mindset from the court tomorrow…..or ever? (Is he allowed to make any statement to the court before sentencing ?)

    I wonder if that linkdin post (charity appearances) was an attempt to sway the judge ahead of sentencing?



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