Russia-Ukraine War

I'm really struggling to know haw to respond when you seem to have absolutely zero ability to differentiate between ordinary people and murdering scumbags dressed in military fatigues.

There is no meme, unless you've gotten lost down some wormhole on the internet, or are completely missing the point. I genuinely doubt you have any real world experience of any of the stuff you're lecturing everyone on.

I'm not going to go down the wormhole with you on this as its just a distraction from the actual atrocities that the Russians are committing in Ukraine. It's a load of nonsense of a non-debate.

When UAF makes it as far as mount Doom let me know… I hear that the plains of Gorgoroth are difficult to cross 😉

As far as I can see, the only options available to Trump or any other US President are:

1. Increase US aid to Ukraine
2. Decrease US aid to Ukraine
3. Keep it around the same

I don't think any of those options can end the war, at least not with any certainty.

No. 1 might end the war sooner, 2 might prolong it.

In any case, no way will the Ukrainians or Europeans support a Ukrainian surrender. Russia are already showing signs of being very stretched for resources.

I dont think this is the main UAF force but rather a recon group

Most military analysts seem to be saying that this incursion into Kursk can only be temporary. The Russians will do whatever it takes to kick them out.

But the Russians also were going all-out to capture Bakhmut, Avdivvka or Kharkiv.

With Ukraine now having better air cover, as well as the ability to strike behind enemy lines, surely it won't be easy to simply expel the Ukrainians? Especially if they have time to dig in. Russia might also be more hesitant to just bomb the place to the ground.

Also - doesn't Russia have to now focus more resources than before in protecting its own borders ? It was complacent up to now. They don't want to lose another 1000 POWs on a similar type raid.

He is a very impatient man. He has to wait until China NK , Iran have independently verified the actual situation before commenting on it. They will have to use a very good and up to date Oxford Dictionary to come up with the form of words to ‘ express their opinions’ which will have to be in favour of Russia - those Ba—_ards of Natzi UKranians!!!!!!!!

Right, enjoy your hyperbolic wormhole. I'll just click ignore and try to enjoy the rest of the discussion on this thread.

It seems as though the Russians spent so long beating their nuclear chest that they got swallowed up in their own hubris, dating as far back as Stalingrad, that nobody would dare to encroach on their territory again. Complacency is a b*ch.

Interesting how with all the saber rattling about nuclear apocalypse over the last few months and years that this incursion we're calling it, hasn't resulted in the promised nuclear over-reaction by the Kremlin. Comforting I guess to know they aren't completely insane.

I'm really struggling to know haw to respond when you seem to have absolutely zero ability to differentiate between ordinary people and murdering scumbags dressed in military fatigues.

There also needs to be a differentiation between women and children, and men, minding their own business, protesting the war, etc. and the people building bombs and supporting it whole heartedly. Something about laying in the bed you've made. This is the same distinction made in another nearby conflict in the world, where the combatants on one side do not at all wear any military fatigues, and are still murdering scumbags, and still supported by a good chunk of their population. The difference there is the murdering scumbags in fatigues on the other side of that conflict (with broad but not total support of their civilians) who indiscriminately bomb the **** out of all civilians on the other side of the conflict, lest 1 or 2 of hundreds of them be 'terrorists.'

Now forgive me if I'm a bit slow here but are the Ukrainian incursion forces committing such atrocities, indiscriminately targeting civilians or have they essentially confined their activities to military targets, manufacturing facilities, the power grid and military adjacent infrastructure etc? I don't even know if the incursion force is uniformed, and I'd say if they were my money is on them wearing slightly used Russian uniforms if anything.

Iran is one of the few islamic countries in the region that you could see being a democratic state in time, probably the only one to be honest.

^ and Belarus just hand it over, of course

the amount of km2 is meaningless, whether its 1,000 or 10,000. What's important is the bloody nose that Russia has received, the knock to morale, the dilemma of redeploying troops, the psychological impact of being invaded, and the populace seeing their military as powerless to stop it.

It's one thing to have a war in a foreign country, another to have it in your own back yard.

It wasn't heavily militarized, that is exactly why Ukraine attacked it.

Whether it is 800 sq km or 1200 sq km isn't all that important.

Some of the the important questions are:

What is the quality of those positions? Can they be defended?

How many personal will Russia have to redeploy from the front to retake it? How many will they redeploy to defend other parts of the front that aren't well defended.

Will the redeployment of troops create opportunities in other parts of the front?

Will Russia deploy the same tactics in Russia as they do in Ukraine?

At the very least Russia will have to use a large amounts ammunitions/mines on Russian soil rather than Ukraine.

Boom

I recon plan is that they don’t want to be bogged down in trench warfare which favours Russian meat grinder tactics

• Trench warfare they have to have a K:D ratio of 3:1 so not to run out of men
• With “raid” rapid movement and “trap” warfare they can probably kill and capture much more Russians for smaller number of men whom I suspect rather do this than rot in trenches

Russian system is not able to think fast and adapt due to its self imposed political constraints, neither can they have another mobilisation without causing more issues for Putin, we’ve already seen both army and FSB gain and lose Putin’s confidence in containing this in last week

I suspect the second shoe is yet to drop, we don’t know how many operatives and what equipment Budanov used to hide in the panic and outflow of civilians, I would not be surprised if there is an uptick in strange sabotage operations in surround oblasts, which will put further manpower demands on Russians as their country is simply too big to defend everywhere, especially against opponents who speak same language and look same and know the culture

I would imagine they'll smash and grab until there's a sizeable force coming their way, then mine the area and retreat back to Ukrainian borders.

Hopefully rinse and repeat somewhere else until Rus has to pull frontline troops back to defend the home country.