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*Charcoal* BBQ/Grilling

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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,642 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    I don’t use 8 habanero peppers, I use 4 scotch bonnets. I also add 4 cloves of garlic and an onion that I’ve blended with water. People love this sauce.

    https://www.food.com/recipe/habanero-peach-bbq-sauce-437062

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    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,642 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    I have a strong objection to the use of liquid smoke, I hate the stuff. That’s personal preference though.

    I would drop the the amount of sugar and add more molasses. For me a bbq sauce should be really strongly molasses flavour.

    It’s a good sauce to build on and play with though. For me a good bbq has a certain flavour profile. It starts sweet, then you get vinegar and finishes with spice. It shouldn’t be too spicy, but should carry a heat at the end.

    I love making bbq sauce.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭Busman Paddy Lasty


    Lidl baby ceramic BBQ is down to approx €53. Probably an epic waste of money but I'm curious as to how ceramics cook.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 397 ✭✭lisij


    53€? Its not bad, not bad at all. Lidl kamado not best but its not bad either



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭Busman Paddy Lasty


    Reduced from €80. It will be for burgers and maybe the odd breakfast. Where I can do brekkie on a small quantity of charcoal.

    I've no experience with ceramic insert but every other part feels top quality.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 397 ✭✭lisij


    i might pick it up for such a good price for small cooks. I used to own kamado, its great piece of kit, really great on fuel



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,857 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Not a waste at all. Ive used mine loads. Great little bit of kit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭Busman Paddy Lasty


    Did two burgers. Not sure if the grill would fit four and have enough wriggle room leftover. Very impressed so far. Seems to have plenty of heat and fuel left so put some more food on.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 505 ✭✭✭hargo


    They are perfect for 2 to 3 people. Hot enough to BBQ in 10 mins or less with a blow torch and miserable on fuel. At just over €50 its a steal. I had one as a starter and cooked loads on it. I made a deflector for it and did slow cooked pork neck a couple of times and worked well. Guy on Utube does some good hacks on it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 289 ✭✭mattcullen


    Thanks for posting. Picked one up today and looking forward to trying it out. From what I've read online it's worth getting a heat deflector to get the best out of it. Can anybody recomend a good heat deflector?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,499 ✭✭✭M00lers


    Agreed, have no intention of using liquid smoke. What molasses would you recommend, not exactly spoilt for choices in Ireland.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,499 ✭✭✭M00lers


    @Brian? Look great, thanks, sub for the dark corn syrup? Maple/golden syurp, molassas?



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,642 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    sorry yeah, I do exactly that.

    As for molasses: whatever you can find. I don’t live in Ireland anymore. I use mulberry molasses from a Turkish shop, if you can get that it’s unbelievable.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,857 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Black treacle works well too



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90 ✭✭rojito


    I'm in the market for a high end charcoal BBQ and am currently undecided between a Kamado Joe and a Smokin Soul one (was on their weekender course last year).

    Two big questions might help my decision:

    • Has anyone actually got a Smokin Soul grill? They look great but would be good to hear some feedback.
    • Is it possible to get decent discounts on a Kamado Joe in the off season?

    If anyone has other suggestions in that price bracket let me know. I'm looking for more of a rustic, traditional type, rather than one of these WiFi controlled pellet-burning things that are being pushed a lot at the moment.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭budgemook


    Highly recommend Kamado Joe Classic and is probably the one more likely to be on sale.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,276 ✭✭✭RainInSummer


    I have a mate with a Smokin Soul one. Haven't seen it but he raves about it.

    I assume you were using their own grills on the course? Those things will see more action in the course of a year than anything your average non professional BBQer would have. So if they worked well for your on your course I wouldn't hesitate.

    FWIW I have both a pellet smoker and a large Monolith Classic Pro 2 kamado style. Love both equally.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90 ✭✭rojito


    Yeah, its a struggle to get first hand feedback on Smokin soul bbqs. The course involves watching them cook and eating and drinking constantly for two days. Highly enjoyable but unfortunately it doesn't have that interactive element to actually try the grills



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,276 ✭✭✭RainInSummer


    Ah. I wasn't aware of that. Tbh I'd have assumed that they'd have a half dozen grills set up and you're cooking with them shoulder surfing and making sure you aren't going to give yourself food poisoning.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,857 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    His and hers from James Whelan on the Lidl ceramic.

    The value Ive gotten from my 90 quid spend at the start of the summer….

    Chimichurri, herbed butter, triple cooked chips and a lovely blue cheese sauce, link below.

    https://foodnetwork.co.uk/recipes/tom-kerridges-ultimate-bbq-rib-eye-steak

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90 ✭✭rojito


    It comes down to the scale of what they do I guess. There were 30 odd people the weekend I was there. They do things like cooking a full lamb over the course of a day strung up on an crucifix thing and suspended at an angle over an open fire, or skinning, butchering and cooking a full wild deer shot in the Wicklow mountains. Amazing to see, but not stuff your going to do at home.

    They know what they are talking about though, and the grills look and feel like serious pieces of kit, but would be great to hear how they perform for the average home cook.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,276 ✭✭✭RainInSummer


    Only hearing from my mate and he was still learning the grill. He's cooked a fair bit on it but he's only had it a half year.

    They're robust though from his reports, and from what I have seen of them they are simple enough that if anything goes it'd be easy enough to get a piece made up for one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 617 ✭✭✭Holy Diver


    If I was going to upgrade from the mastertouch I’d be looking at the Weber summit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 708 ✭✭✭davegilly


    I agree - I have the Summit after having the Mastertouch and it's the bees knees. Cooking area is huge on it and much lighter than a ceramic.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,642 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    had a look at them- go with a ceramic kamado instead. Much more versatile IMO.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 10,592 Mod ✭✭✭✭squonk


    Both are good but think about your use case. Personally I have a master touch and wouldn’t mind getting a kamodo at side point to try it out. Downside of the kamodo id it’s in place and you’re not going to move it. I’m not at that point yet where I want or need new lawn furniture. Weber Summit seems like the best of both worlds, tge familiarity of a kettle with kamodo performance and the portability of a kettle. I’d guess the kamodo inches it on overall performance though. You can get a whole break off fittings for both systems but I think the depth of the kamodo makes it a little not flexible. What’s your use case though or do you think you’d want that either trust it down the line.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90 ✭✭rojito


    Thanks all. I do think the Kamado is much more versatile and suited to my style, tonight for example I did a spatchcock chicken for midweek lunches and char siu pork belly for dinner, medium/long but not super long cooks that are just about what I can get away with with a busy house.

    The Smokin soul would almost be a showpiece, and I genuinely would like to support Irish business, I may get one eventually but for now I realise a Kamado suits me better.

    The Weber wasn't even on my radar, thanks to whoever mentioned that. I'll be on the lookout now for bargains between it, the Kamado Joe and a Monolith. If anyone finds anything please post on the thread as I've been following it for a while although without contributing!



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 10,592 Mod ✭✭✭✭squonk


    You raise a good point actually. I kind of wish there was an overall grilling forum with all the bbq forums off that. There’d be a good place for a bargain alerts forum then.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 617 ✭✭✭Holy Diver


    That looks very good.

    The recipe couldn’t be more vague on the actual steak cooking though!! I assume he means indirect.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 99 ✭✭Eeshaw


    Had some friends over at the weekend. 12 hour oak smoke shoulder managed by the Inkbird kamado fan set to 115°C

    2.2kg Tesco pork shoulder, simply rubbed with jerk seasoning.

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    6hrs in, put in foil with apple cider vinegar, then cooked until 96°C. Finished by wrapping in towels to rest.

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    Pulled, although it fell apart. Served with warmed rolls and sauces added by each diner to taste.

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