Hamas strike on Israel - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

A bomb smuggled into a building two months prior in a building supposedly protected by the Guards. It just gets worse for the Iranians.

If the Americans know what Iran is going to do next, then it suggests they have a mole or two in the room where the Ayatollah held the security meeting. Either that or Iran is so desperate to avoid a war that someone is leaking the discussions to the Americans so they can minimise the threat to Israel. The Iranians are trying to look strong to a domestic audience while behind the scenes likely doing all they can to avoid a full scale war. If you notice too Nasrallah in his rant didn't mention all out war, rather a new phase. The reality is if Hezbollah killed the head of the IDF. War would be declared within hours by Israel.

The killing of Haniyeh probably wouldn't have gone ahead if Israel calculated Iran would go to war over it. They know well Iran is desperate to avoid a war. It also proves the nonsense about the leadership being a death cult that craves martyrdom- the leadership are very much pragmatic and into self preservation- otherwise, if the likes of SeanW was right, the Iranians would have gone to war with Israel long before now and welcomed their inevitable destruction as the path to martyrdom. They avoid it because they actually love life more than death.

Ah the dead children really get to you. 17,000 little broken bodies that the Israeli supporters can't get past. They hate the mention of them because they know how awful it looks for the regions only Democracy. Maybe they're only Muslims and human animals to others to some but they were innocent children and their deaths matter.

2 utterly predictable responses.

How often do you guys want me to post here so that ye can respond identically again? Ye get really upset and it gets to ye if I dont.

I'm happy posting when something relevant (like Haniyeh death) happens but it seems daily posts are required.

Deleted. Not taking bait, shouldn't have in the first place.

I'm out too bud.

I'm in the John Mearsheimer camp of thinking when he said any criticism of Israel is met with cries of antisemitism or being a Hamas defender. Mainly cause any hard questions regarding the foundation of the state of Israel require facing some extremely uncomfortable truths.

More bad news for Gaza -

https://www.rte.ie/news/world/2024/0731/1462751-un-israel/

The head of the World Health Organization has said that polio has been detected in Gaza and warned that children in the war-ravaged enclave would soon be infected by the disease if preventative measures were not quickly taken.

A day after the WHO said there were "very likely" polio cases among Gaza's population, Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus took to social media to flag concern about the human cost of the conflict between Israel and Hamas.

It is important to see the likes of the below being broadcast to US audiences

I never said that the ad hoc committee were coming to the table with a one state solution. They had got the delegation to agree in part to be part of the still ongoing and not yet finalised UNSCOP deliberations at that point. They were told it's too late, this is the plan. Do you not understand what compromise means. You seem to be having a hard time understanding a lot of what you read so maybe you don't.

My read is that the Arab delegation fucked up, and tried to rescue the situation half-heartedly but it was too late. It was their own fault tbh.

I have no idea what your favoured outcome is. It seems you don't have one, as you refuse to nail your colours to the mast.

"look at the history only I truly understand

+1000

When looking at and discussing the history, there is a bit of 'Wizard of Oz' trick at play in the narrative

I referenced numerous articles, but apparently, they are all wrong, but some professor somewhere is the gold standard we should all interpret in the same way.

The ultimate irony is that the original plan, devised by the UNSCOP, and accepted by the UN under resolution 181(II) was a 2 state solution.

This is the official proposed solution our state, Ireland, has to the conflict, along with the US, the EU and most other countries.

Most here agree on that solution, like myself.

Yet when we talk about 1947, and the partition of Palestine into two 2 states…. things are flipped whereby the one unitary state is the one that should have been put forward and Jewish/Israeli state apparently should never have been created.

Yes he is a complete idiot/ tone deaf to have done that, but let's expose the double standards shall we. If Michael had fired off a letter praising the re election of Bibi the suspected war criminal many pro Israelis here would have nothing to say about it. This is the problem people will profess to stand with the Iranian people because they are pro human rights and people having freedom but then demonise Israeli human right groups and the like of Lidon Gevy for speaking out about Israeli crimes in the West Bank which deny Palestinians these very things. Will you take the deflection route Balagan1 or admit it is a double standard.

Higgins is more diplomatic then I could ever be … Opening up an embassy, keeping the dialogue going…. For me it is a possible win/win … Israel get a proper beating while the warmongering ayatollahs hopefully can be toppled for a more moderate regime.

There are no colours to nail the mast. Stop trying to bait .

So, you accept a 2 state solution?