Hamas strike on Israel - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

Iran's response could be as early as tonight.

Guess it will be similar to last time.

This all sounds a little bit conspiratorial to be fair, and dare I say rose tinted.

At the end of the day, the UN voted to establish 2 states.

One Jewish.

One Arab.

The Jewish state was accepted and became Israel.

The Arab state was not, and thus attacked Israel many times since.

And here we are..

Maybe I mixed you up with another poster. As I thought you said the ICJ ruling was flawed and biased. If you didn't then fair enough I was wrong. So what is your opinion then on these matters?

It's the main reason. It was reported by the BBC back in November that Nethanyu assured Biden Hamas leaders would not be touched while in Qatar. You would have to wonder after the apparent strike on Dief why Haniyeh opted to risk going to Iran. He apparently called off a trip to Lebanon over security fears. Perhaps he thought being the lead negotiator in peace talks gave him some kind of immunity ?

To be fair, blowing up the negotiator in peace talks isn't something you'd generally expect from a country that's supposedly serious about the peace talks.

People claiming Haniyeh was a Gerry Adams type guy are correct but the Israelis aren't the British and he got what he deserved . They dont forget what he gave the 'greenlight' for on Oct 7th ..

BiBi definitely wants the war to continue for whatever reason. It's the right thing to do anyway. It's time to confront Iran plain and simple. This modern day irish left wing whinging of 'give peace a chance ' and 'stop the war" is all bogus. The Left in Ireland and across the world want Hamas to stay in situ. They hate Israel ..substitute 'zionist' for 'jew' and want it to lose . It won't happen.

The British were genuine in 1948 . Since the Tipperary,Waterford and Wexford men of the Royal Irish regiment under Appleby in WW1 helped liberate Jeruselum the locals had little or no 'Palestinian' out look. They were Arabs ,thats it.The Arabs were given a fine chance of having a country in 48/49 ..similar to the Free State of 1922 which was an opportunity we grasped. They rejected it and would have killed every man woman and Jewish child if they could. They then lost the war of attempted annihilation,badly . The Saudis ,Hashemites ect didn't and don't give a toss about the Palestinians.. never have. They just wanted the Jews gone. It's only in the mid 1950s that the Americans became a serious power superceding the British woth cold hard cash. Hard to know what happens now... For me this opportunity to rid the middle east of Irans power or at least degrade it must be grasped. There's a huge peace deal coming if the Iranians are confronted. The UAE ,Jordan and Saudi Arabia are already allies of Israel in all but name. With Iran degraded the Palestinians can get building Gaza and become realistic .. they ll get offered a large part of the desert near Gaza and that's it...thats the best they ll get after 7th of Octobers atrocity. The west bank will never be part of the end treaty again. It's over for them in the West Bank ..too many bad decisions by their leaders since forever . The best they can hope for is 2 million max being offered Israeli citizenship and a good deal of autonomy there. The settlers will never move or be moved now. Too many if them, too well armed andthe Haredi families are like the Irish families of our grandparents...8 kids average I think

Another evil fecker on the way to meet the 72 virgin goats

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-08-01/israel-says-it-s-confirmed-hamas-number-two-deif-was-killed

cue fake outrage and crocodile tears from Islamist terrorist sympathisers

Ok then. Fair enough. So what is your opinion on the ICJ rulings?

Was always going to happen, Israel are too strong for Hamas. Hamas recently made a deal with the PA so they know the power will be transferred after their eventual destruction

Even the pro-Hamas people in this thread have to admit that technologically, militarily, Israel is incredible. Deif and Haniyeh and Shukr in Gaza and Beirut and Tehran at the same time? If James Bond or Navy Seals did that in a movie it would be too far-fetched. Stunning military victories. Reminds me of the epic 6-day war win.

Plus the terrorists have stopped using smartphones, they're back to pagers and human couriers and Israel still got all of them. Stunning! It's as if God is on their side.

Yes. i think the PA leadership are secretly delighted by these strikes while publicity denouncing them.

I heard a military analyst yesterday talk about the assassination of Haniyeh as a pure embarrassment for Iran. Apparently it was a drone, that was launched outside of Iranian airspace and flew across the country, into the window of the very room Haniyeh was staying in.

A big military and intelligence failure.

Someone a day or two ago was talking about Iran 'trolling' Israel into an all-out war. If anyone is trolling it's the Israelis with these precise hits on the leaders of Hamas and Hezbollah.

When you add in the demolition of all civilian infrastructure, the slaughter of tens of thousands of innocent men, women and children, the mutilation of tens of thousands more, the torture and rape of thousands of civilians detained ... It really is something alright

Calling the political leader of Hamas a "peace talks negotiator" is like calling Donald Trump a "progressive beacon of unity". Trump mentioned "unity" (briefly) after being shot, but there is rather more to it that that, isn't there?

Do you believe that Ismail Haniyeh was just an innocent "peace talks negotiator" or do you just say things that are deliberately misleading and biased to suit a radical agenda?

Would you not rather be balanced and informed? Was the political leader of HAMAS involved in anything other than peace talks, do you think? Or are you told what to think?