Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings - updated 11/5/24*

Yep. The folks in the middle bracket certainly get nothing back from the govt.

Some form of taxation that rewards people actually working would be a good thing.

That would be an actual progressive taxation policy.

You think that people that come to avail of free **** here arent patriotic. 🤣

We have the money to house and feed the world but borrow two water cannons from another jurisdiction.

An illegitimate regime? How do you come to that conclusion?

Our lad from Somalia more than likely hopped over the channel from the UK. Surely now that Operation Rwanda has been scrapped, we can put him back on a boat from whence he came?

I bet the cannons get good use today and nobody will care,sure the media have demonised everybody at Coolock as military grade racists,even linked them to the provos and the Kkk.

It's extremely bad optics as well. Borrowing equipment like this is only going to escalate the situation and dramatically increase the resentment and frustration felt by many on the ground.

It's bad enough that the Gardai are being deployed as enforcers of this unmandated resettlement programme, but the way any resistance and protests have been demonised in the media and by politicians is only making a bad situation worse.

OF COURSE people are going to become visible and vocal when their questions, concerns and fears are not only ignored, but actively belittled. OF COURSE they are going to get out on the streets and attempt to physically block or prevent these measures going ahead - and yes, OF COURSE there will be a small but destructive element who'll latch onto these legitimate protests as a way to cause mayhem regardless. They do the same already in communities through abuse of drink, drugs and dealing, car thefts and joy riding, burglary and theft, assault and property damage etc etc.

This last group are already well known to Gardai in the areas, and enabled by a pathetic excuse for a criminal justice system that allows them rack up dozens or hundreds of offences, or a prison system that graduates them from petty thug to violent career criminal.

It's this group that are the problem in these circumstances, not the ordinary citizens who are already disenfranchised and largely abandoned by the State as it is in areas like Coolock or Tallaght.

Deploying the same sort of equipment and tactics used by the PSNI and RUC during the Troubles against those same citizens is only going to end badly, very badly. What's next, rubber bullets?

The bottom line continues to be that there is no support, no mandate, and no cause for any of this among the general public - except from a minority of misguided and/or profiteering charity and NGO organisations, weak and servile politicians who clearly have been instructed to push this through (as bad as they are, I cannot believe that FF and FG are literally blind to all of this and the anger it's causing, not to mention the vast sums of money squandered and redirected to pay for it), and of course the (economic) migrants themselves who are travelling many thousands of miles through multiple safe Western countries to turn up on a small island on the edge of Europe looking for "asylum", or border hopping from France or the UK claiming persecution (truck containers optional).

My next statement may sound hyperbolic and controversial, but our country is under siege at this point. Not only from these external chancers but from internal authorities and politicians who are forcing huge pressures on the infrastructure, services, supports and of course the native citizens of this State.

This is being reflected in almost every aspect of Irish life now - access to housing and health services, the negative transformation of local communities and their stability and safety, crime and gang violence on the streets, the attempts by McEntee to criminalise "hate speech" (that neither she nor anyone else can clearly and consistently define), and the radicalisation and polarisation of debate to where anyone who voices concerns or objections is set upon by the media and advocates as being one step removed from a neo-Nazi.

Ordinary, politically and socially easy going (to the point of almost catatonic at times) people who are not only being told to pay for all this, and to move back in line (both from a eligibility for services and supports, but also behaviourally), and shut up are now openly questioning what's going on, what's happening to our country, and - most importantly - what is the end game here???!!

If very clear, reasonable and logical answers aren't forthcoming from the authorities then OF COURSE people are going to draw their own conclusions and try to protect themselves and their family/community from what they (justifiably) see as an attack on those things. Unfortunately there will be those who go too far - either from frustration or deliberate scumbag behaviour - but all of this is not only avoidable and foreseeable, it's self-inflicted by a Government that thus far has refused to answer ANY real questions or offer ANY real information or explanations to the people that they are constitutionally and legally required to represent and be accountable to!

I fear that this issue is only going to get much worse and become a much wider problem in this country so long as these questions and endgame remain unanswered and it won't be the fault of the people of Coolock or any other community, but the politicians and authorities themselves!

Whats been kept quiet in the media but is now policy

Asylum seekers who have been granted asylum have to leave their accommodation that they've been in since they first arrived.

Of course they have nowhere to go so are being housed by the council in new build apartments and houses.

The impact of this is reflected in social housing statistics. In 2021 non-EU nationals accounted for 6.4% of social housing applications, in 2022 non-EU nationals accounted for 7.3% of social housing applications, last year, in 2023, non-EU nationals accounted for 9.6% of social housing applications.

Dump 😅

I thought it was all LOI jerseys these days.

I can. They need asylum and protection. From absolutely everything, all the time. The need for asylum doesn't stop once they've fled "immediate danger", because then they need protection from discrimination for having been an asylum seeker in the first place. And how do we go about that to ensure we're not a discriminatory country full of bigotry and all the other terms, that's right, we forsake our own in favour of these asylum seekers.

I wonder if there'll be a decline in the citizenship and passport applications once people catch on to the fact that you're nearly better off being a perpetual asylum seeker.

People are arriving all the time and the authorities want to make space by moving those with successful applications out of direct provision or IPAS centres.

Trouble is they, like a lot of us, don’t have the means to rent in the private market.

So should they be thrown on the street? That would be deemed inhumane.

I suspect that because a lot of Irish homeless are living with parents in uncomfortable conditions but technically still have a roof over their head they simply aren’t a priority.

It’s just a hunch but I suspect that’s what is going on.

Numbers are a different point.

The point the poster made was about refugees suddenly qualifying for social housing, like it was a new thing. It isnt.

20k asylum seekers is an underestimate for 2024.

I think its more like 30k this year. I do agree with you that we need some mechanism to manage the demand vs supply, of course.

My concern there is that the govt do not have a plan to do so.