Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings - updated 11/5/24*

Crisis or no crisis, there's no excuse for having "on less" on your poster, when you mean "unless". I'd love to be a fly on the wall in the war room 😅

Maybe they've been taken in by all the misinformation online that they're all getting free houses?

Sure we're all keyboard warriors, can we go too?

So Finland and Poland literally send them back over the border. Straight in no kissing. No NGO's, no archaic humanitarian law's, no lawyers. Just gone. Adiós.

Holy ****. We are done for. The precedent is already set in other EU countries what happens next.

Lads how do people multi quote on mobile. I don't want to be writing multiple messages.

That's it. Bad enough with a government lacking a backbone but this has been allowed to get out of control, though it could be argued it never was under control anyway.

People have started to do very well out of this and the moment that happens, it is no longer about helping people.

Real asylum seekers may suffer, yes, but I'd imagine it's the tax payer paying the highest price.

Link please

3rd time asking this Q. How do they know which border if they claim asylum in Helsinki with no papers or memory of travel/home? The Russians accept them on a hunch is it?

A quick Google search returns much of the same info, Finland passed a law allowing their border guards to block entry to those claiming asylum at the border with Russia.

I've not seen footage of this being enforced but maybe it looks like a game of asylum seeker tennis between the border guards of each country.

I would bank on the law alone being somewhat of a deterrent.

You know this is **** crazy when we beat the likes of Greece and Spain. Ireland a country on the edge of Europe beats Greece and Spain!!!

https://gript.ie/ireland-had-eus-highest-per-capita-asylum-applications-in-may/

Totally sums up Ireland at the moment. Badly needed apartments cannot be built because of some arbitrary planning laws but all bureaucracy conveniently set aside for this "emergency".

Don't tell me it's an emergency situation. It's not my emergency and the word emergency implies there's an end to a temporary situation (which I don't see)

The public health crisis is a significant factor, together with family reunification opportunities for immigrants. I posted the following in May, delays in various medical specialities have not improved since then...

"I attend four different public clinics in a major Dublin hospital every few weeks/months and I have observed a significant increase in middle-aged and older immigrants attending the clinics, many of them don't have any English and might bring a family member or two to assist with translation etc. The waiting time can be up to 5 or 6 hours (it used to be 3) just to see a doctor.

The health system could barely cope since I've been attending hospitals for various conditions, which was around 2003, just before Harney came in.

Someone just mentioned Donnelly is analytical, well according to the CSO Ireland's population grew by nearly 100,000 in 2023, of that 81,000 were non EU/UK citizens including 42k Ukrainians. Has Donnelly used his analytical skills to put resources in place to deal with this influx. Obviously, a good cohort of the immigrants will not require hospital services yet, but primary care, yes that concept successive Ministers for Health were heralding as the solution to all problems in the system, is on its knees. You can't get a doctor's appointment in Dublin. My own GP just refers patients to A&E now as there are no appointments available, even the out of hours service is under severe pressure.

We all heard about the massive problems Limerick University Hospital is experiencing, and not a word from Donnelly on how it is to be managed. I'd be terrified bringing a family member to the A&E there given recent reports.

How is Donnelly going to manage with a massive increase in population, Irish nurses leaving in their droves and an ageing population especially when the Government pick numbers out if the air like McEntee's 80% claim regarding asylum seeker numbers from the North. I'd say they haven't a clue how many people are coming in. How they are going to plan to build the infrastructure that is needed to keep the lights on in the health service nevermind resourcing Model 4 hospitals or 'Centres of Excellence'.

This is just one consequence of the increase in population and it's an absolute mess. More immigrants are landing in the country each day, and there seems to be no end in sight. Of course, the more immigrants that arrive, the more staff will be required to service our health system and other services. It's like a catch-22 situation.

It is very challenging to remain optimistic for the future of this country, I simply don't have any faith in the government's or opposition's ability to solve our problems."

Pepper and co

Waiting lists for absolutely everything in the richest on paper country in the world, it's a disgrace. I checked myself out of hospital recently because I feared for my health

I actually cured myself from permanent spinal chord damage through hard work and private physio. Thehse were going to leave me paralysed until a place was available in rehab in 4 months time

Russia is militarising immigration into Europe. Finland, Poland etc recognise this. They will just reef them back over the border.

Found this on Euronews regarding Finland.

"However, they will not allegedly refuse entry to children, disabled people and any migrants deemed by border guards to be in a particularly vulnerable position". Seems fair.