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Bishop Eamon Casey - Child Abuse Allegations

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,078 ✭✭✭FishOnABike


    A little web searching indicates he had no known personal wealth and the money paid to Annie Murphy towards raising their son Peter, was taken from diocesan funds.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/religion-and-beliefs/how-bishop-eamonn-casey-s-fall-from-grace-came-to-light-1.3009016

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/mar/16/most-rev-eamonn-casey-obituary



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 27,444 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    Disgusting of Casey to deny his son.

    As to Cleary. In a former life I was a teacher in the middle of town and some kids (teens) were invited in to be interviewed on his radio show. Being interested in the technical side of radio, I went along with them.

    Their little bit over, the people in the station gave them biscuits and drinks and stuff, so we hung around for a bit. Cleary took calls (off air) after his show and was getting very animated to one caller telling him/her it was 'impossible to get pregnant from rape'. I got the kids out of there as soon as possible. He was quite horrible and the yellow fingers, hair and teeth didn't help.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,879 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    He was known for his love of fast cars - I’d say the diocesan funds were likely treated as “walking around money” when he was Bishop



  • Posts: 8,532 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Another nail in the coffin of the Irish Catholic Church.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,117 ✭✭✭StormForce13


    Another nail in the coffin of the Old Irish State too; seemingly the Gardaí were informed of Casey's vile actions but did sweet fukc all about them. No doubt some of the donut munchers who looked the other way are still alive and enjoying their pensions.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,025 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Found the link

    https://www.rte.ie/news/2024/0722/1461043-bishop-eamonn-casey/

    Despite his resignation as Bishop of Galway in 1992, he remained a Bishop until his death in 2017 and claimed his removal from ministry was unjust.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 301 ✭✭Oxo Moran


    Did they offer education without indoctrination? No.

    They got lots of land, free reign and generations of gullible people devoted to them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 301 ✭✭Oxo Moran


    The entire church is bad. It was it's leaders who carried out and covered for abusers.

    I respect your faith.

    Your faith company has absolutely no business involving itself in the way my country is run or how my family live.

    It should be held accountable for all criminality.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,030 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    The way the discussion has turned here shows that no one here has any much memory of that time.

    Its very sad that these allegations only come out 30/40 years later.

    You want these people to be punished in their lifetime, though I dont know how much comfort that would or wouldnt bring to victims.

    When you see the footage of him in his pomp at the time of the popes visit…. all powerful.

    Yes I agree, I think when his scandal broke in the early 90s it slightly pre-dated the tsunami of church scandals so would have been seen in a different light anyway.

    I remember a lot of talk subsequently on how he had relocated to Mexico and was quietly doing great work over there….a spin was being put on it.

    Doubt if Christy Moore will be singing that song any time soon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 633 ✭✭✭jay1988


    I can't agree with that last line at all, they may have built the schoold but then they had full control of what kids were learning. The church has held this country back more than any other organisation ever has, they are an absolute disgrace, kids beaten for being left handed, kids beaten for not being as smart as other kids, babies stolen and sold to America for the crime of being born to an unmarried mother, multiple, multiple cover ups of child abuse and probably many, many more to be uncovered.

    No amount of good deeds could ever wash out the stain the church and clergy have left on this country. An organisation that still seems to think itself untouchable and above reproach.

    Every church and parochial house in the country should be ripped down and the land handed over to the state as payment for its crimes against the people of this country over the last century, but then the church isn't really keen on paying reparations, hush money no problem but reparations no.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,025 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    "Your faith company" 😂

    I do find many Irish people are completely hypocritical when it comes to their views and attendance at Roman church meetings and so called sacraments. To be honest, it condones the cover up of widespread clerical child abuse. Until the church come completely clean and release all their abuse records, they are a criminal organisation and need to be shunned. Getting the truth from Rome is still like getting blood from a stone.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,835 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    The Irish state allowed every one of those things to happen, by looking the other way. As well as Grace, Aras Attracta, and goodness only knows what else.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 633 ✭✭✭jay1988


    I agree 100%, we gained independence and handed the country to the church on a platter. I have no doubt that the state itself actively protected the church in some of their actions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 852 ✭✭✭gossamerfabric


    Horrid as those events were I dislike the Irish Catholic Church more for its pernicious influence. Even if the local P.P. didn't have abhorrent sexual tendencies they all ruled their own parishes as fiefdoms with an iron fist and stunted the lives of all their parishioners especially in rural areas.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,119 ✭✭✭Radio5


    It's back in the news because a new TV documentary has been made about it and is on RTE One tonight after the news. Possibly it may contain more information than has been in previous media reports. The journalist/ documentary maker Anne Sheridan has been working on the case for some years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,030 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    Can ye take the 'Me holding court about how awful the Catholic Church is' discussion to a different chat, there is nothing new being said.

    On Eamonn Casey, I am noting his funeral was attended by Enda Kenny and President Michael D, as well as other glitterati.

    I wonder were these allegations know to the gardai at the time, and had they been passed up the line.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,879 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    yes I see that advertised and one of his alleged victims interviewed in one of the Irish newspapers - looks like it will be a lot more in depth than previous reports



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,876 ✭✭✭Pauliedragon


    It's days are numbered. I'm mid 40's and wouldn't know what the inside of a church looks like outside weddings/funerals. I asked a family member who goes to mass every Sunday how many people my age are there and the answer is none and they've no priests left.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    Well, convincing children they are going to burn in hell forever unless they conform is an unspeakable cruelty.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,338 ✭✭✭Iscreamkone




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 633 ✭✭✭jay1988


    That's quite a good point, small example of this, when I was 8 or 9, so mid 90s, the local priest arrived into my class one day looking for volunteers to do a reading at mass that Sunday, when nobody came forward he asked the teacher to recommend somebody, teacher points to me and the priests says sure you'll do a reading won't ya, I refused and he asked why and I told him I didn't believe in god, his face turned beetroot purple, he was incredulous and leaves the class.

    Fast forward to the end of the school day and I arrive home to find said priest sitting at the kitchen table with my grandmother. He had gone to the school office, asked the secretary for my address and turned up to demand my nanny make me do a reading.

    Thankfully, my nanny is a tough inner city woman who has absolutely no respect for the church after seeing what they can do up close during her childhood and she has no problem running the priest from the house but it was just a small example of the bigger issue, an organisation that thinks it can trample all over people's wishes to get what they want.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,171 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    The people wanted it that way. Not just "the State". Can you imagine any politician getting any sort of office on an anti church stance back in the day?

    The church was baked into almost every aspect of Irish life long before there was an independent state.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,309 ✭✭✭evolvingtipperary101


    Eamonn Casey is the epitome of evil. Absolute scum. There needs to be a root and branch outing of everyone who covered up for him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,025 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    This is "Catholic" Ireland. That will never happen.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,309 ✭✭✭evolvingtipperary101


    Jesus Christ. Sent him off to Ecuador. What he got up to over there is beyond the imagination, of course. Set up a hospital… another Jimmy Saville.



  • Posts: 3,330 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Don't forget throwing babies corpses into septic tanks.

    Knock down every churchin the country, build houses and apartments there instead. 2 birds with 1 stone, get rid of the RCC in Ireland and provide accommodation to many people in desperate need.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,879 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,879 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    mighty might lord all mighty off with the collar and off with the nightie was the chorus - still sticks in my mind to this day - a very controversial song at the time and church obviously terribly offended



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,025 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    It's interesting that because he was a bishop, he couldn't be investigated under canon law. Only the pope could investigate.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,025 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    And yet again the reporters in RTE show that the Vatican were completely uncooperative.

    Their arrogance after decades of widespread child abuse and cover ups is astounding. When will they be an open honest organisation? Never. Creeps

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



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