Bishop Eamon Casey - Child Abuse Allegations

Seth Brundle · 21-07-2024 07:34PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122409078#Comment_122409078

The RCC didn't operate hospitals and schools for the betterment of society. They did it because they received funding for doing so and they kept control of what was done in these institutions. Even recently, we had them wanting to take ownership of the Natiknal Maternity Hospital where there would be none of that abortion stuff allowed.

Money & control is what the RCC is all about!

Cluedo Monopoly · 21-07-2024 07:36PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122409073#Comment_122409073

That's not what RTE have on their link. I'll post it later.

kabakuyu · 21-07-2024 07:40PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122409138#Comment_122409138

Where did this happen and what period of the 1800's exactly?

tohaltuwi · 21-07-2024 07:41PM

one time when I was being driven home by a friendly Nigerian taxi driver, I heard him speak in an interesting language to his wife over speakerphone, it included a lot of English. I enquired what language that might be, he gave me a long an interesting explanation about that. He and his family are of a more remote tribe outside mainstream society. Irish missionary nuns arrived and set up a school and all sorts. He was educated by the nuns and said his education was amazing. He had been taught a lot about Ireland and he considered it would be a lovely place to come to. He is impressed by the education his children now have.

21-07-2024 07:42PM

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I didn't use the word idiot.

It's a very different scenario if you actually practice religion, attend mass etc. If you want to turn a blind eye to the absolutely horrific behaviour of those who represent your faith, that's your call.

I should have been more specific and said I was referring to the sheep who never go to mass, and just turn up for the big occasions. And like that moron TD in Cork, set aside their actual social beliefs to tick the boxes on the big days.

tohaltuwi · 21-07-2024 07:44PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122409241#Comment_122409241

ah yes, where would all the holy communion & confirmation money come from otherwise and mammy’s and sometimes daddy’s big day out for Instagram followers

kabakuyu · 21-07-2024 07:54PM

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I Disagree slightly with your last paragraph.

Nowadays people are interested in causes,activism,and anything on social media that is popular,in a way this is the new religion,I see similarities between the very devout Catholic of years ago and the zealotary of some who follow "causes" .

21-07-2024 08:01PM

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Plenty of people with no faith who don't require drugs or counselling, I'll count myself amongst them.

Believing there is a man sitting on clouds waiting to welcome you in your death, and that you will chill out there for eternity, and talking to said invisible man is something that one might think requires counselling, or a padded cell. But if it gives you peace that's nice for you.

If religion didn't exist and somebody started talking about god tomorrow, telling us that he is everywhere at all times and we eat his 2,000 year old son's flesh at mass they'd be accused of being insane.

Deeec · 21-07-2024 08:15PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122409339#Comment_122409339

Your doing it again ... basically saying anyone who believes is a fool.

As I said to you in an earlier post my faith is personal. I don't do any harm to anybody else. I lost a family member in a car accident. My faith got me through that very tough time. It was either turn to religion or anti depressants at the time. I'm not a religious nutter who goes around preaching to everyone - it's personal belief.

An elderly uncle once said to me that if you don't believe in something you have nothing. You have to have something that gives you hope. I believe this to be true.

Anyway we are going off topic - Casey was a bad egg and yes I do believe the allegations again him. Casey and the many others like him though doesn't mean that the entire catholic church was bad.

21-07-2024 08:21PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122408338#Comment_122408338

Father Brendan Smyth's wrong doings were headlines around 1995, so it is surprising he was still at at in 2001. Casey probably though he was untouchable, and it appears he was.

tohaltuwi · 21-07-2024 08:24PM

just heard in the news he remained a Bishop until his death. That conflicts with what I think I heard released back around the time of his death.

21-07-2024 08:25PM

A lot more to come from this. Uncle gaybo his biggest defender back on the day.

tohaltuwi · 21-07-2024 08:26PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122409466#Comment_122409466

A Bishop is more problematic than a priest. There could be a board game created on the basis of all this.

Iscreamkone · 21-07-2024 08:32PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122409427#Comment_122409427

The church was/is toxic. It tried to get everyone to obey their rules and make believe. The sooner the few old priests die off the better.

I still say anyone who believes in woo is an idiot. There is no difference between your heaven and the Scientologists flying off in a spacecraft. The woo must be mocked and everyone who believes in this rubbish should be called out as being an idiot.

If fairytales work for you then knock yourself out - but the truth is that your faith is just a placebo, with no real juju.

Acosta · 21-07-2024 08:35PM

I have no issue whatsoever with people being spiritual and practicing their religion etc.

But after all the horrors that have emerged over the last 25 or more years about what it really meant to be a "Catholic Country", since the formation of the republic, up until the 90s, that the church still have anything to do with Children, schools and hospitals, is a bit of a sick joke really.

Unfortunately though, when it comes to the many forms of abuse, mother and baby homes etc, too many Irish people tend to shrug their shoulders about it and head off to get their child baptised. Things have got a lot better in this country since I was a child, but we have a bit to go yet.

21-07-2024 08:39PM

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You're the one saying if someone doesn't have faith they need counselling or medication.

So it's OK for you to think you're correct in your faith, and judge the rest of us?

Oscar_Madison · 21-07-2024 08:40PM

I was scratching my head why this is “news” at this time in July 2024- allegations of child sex abuse against him were reported on years ago

https://extra.ie/2024/07/21/news/irish-news/bishop-eamonn-casey-vatican

Apparently a programme on RTÉ tomorrow evening is the simple answer- not sure how much “new” information there will be

https://www.rte.ie/news/2024/0721/1460965-bishop-eamonn-casey/

tohaltuwi · 21-07-2024 08:56PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122409526#Comment_122409526

there are modern equivalents. Human behaviour dictates that people divide in rhetoric. That’s fine if it’s low key, but modern times have proved immense divides in intense belief systems

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tohaltuwi · 21-07-2024 08:57PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122409564#Comment_122409564

Oscar, most of us pay fairly fleeting attention to news, if it’s not repeated (irritatingly) often enough, we simply don’t take it in.

Oscar_Madison · 21-07-2024 09:02PM

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Hitler lost WW2- just in case you missed it 🤪

tohaltuwi · 21-07-2024 09:04PM

people were Catholic in good faith, at least the majority were. Broadly speaking they did not intend to invoke any evil upon their family. However there was plenty of evil in this organisation as there is in modern day entities that cry out for our following.

By default a lot of people are trusting, even the most intelligent among us. Being trusting dies not equate to being stupid as so many smart-asses of varying intellect say. Having your trust breached by take, Catholic Church, whatever way you have been insulted, is serious cr@p. If we never trusted, NOTHING would progress in the world, nothing.

tohaltuwi · 21-07-2024 09:09PM

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indeed during my schooling I got very outraged by learning about Hitler. I was a quiet girl at school (hard to believe, but my friends from school described me as “a timid & gentle soul”. I got so enraged by Hitler I became brave and famously did a goose step & Hitler imitation in class, amusing the teacher.

Oscar_Madison · 21-07-2024 09:13PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122409700#Comment_122409700

sorry I see it was you that started the thread - I didn’t mean why was this thread created? I was just wondering why Casey is back in the news when such reports were in the news years ago

NIMAN · 21-07-2024 09:20PM

Are we surprised?

JP Liz V1 · 21-07-2024 09:21PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122408094#Comment_122408094

It looks to be himself

In 2019 it was also reported that Casey paid settlements to two other women who accused him of abusing them as children in the 1950s and 1960s, while a third settlement was made following his death.

21-07-2024 10:25PM

some comments here dismissive of Catholic Church. Pose the question - explain creation or where we come from or where we are going. Catholic Church doesn’t have a monopoly on this question but hard to beat the example of Jesus if looking for answers. A lot of religious have made massive contributions in terms of assisting the weakest sections of society. I have always been wary of many diocesan clergy (Casey represents that group) - arrogance etc.