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The Official Cavan GAA Discussion thread.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,349 ✭✭✭rrs


    I wouldn't know too much about it, but the ladies schools team have done well recently. Loreto. There is probably a lot of players going there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,736 ✭✭✭celt262


    I'd like to know why they are doing better at Senior level. They have been winning lots at underage for the years but aren't improving at Senior.



  • Posts: 653 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Dominating the U16s as we speak. It's an interesting question. I'm sure there's not the same focus and money spent on underage ladies football but still, to be consistently at the top level they clearly are doing something right that other counties aren't. Are there lessons to be learned for the boys side of the house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 473 ✭✭mylestheslasher


    Well for one the a load of thesenior panel pulled out due to row over unpaid expenses. Before that they were in senior championship and in top 10 in country for few years on the bwvk of not a lot of underage success. It's a shame the good underage teams haven't the experienced seniors there to guide them.

    Well done to the U16 girls who won so well today, 10 points to spare over Mayo



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,366 ✭✭✭Cavan_King


    The ladies game is growing hugely. Even in Cavan, a lot of clubs have only started their ladies team in the last decade. I do wonder when I see this underage success if other counties are still a bit behind in their growth.

    Armagh have no Ulster but are in an All Ireland final. It’s hard to believe now we beat them in a 2019 Ulster semi final but since then we drifted down to Division 4 and they operated in Division One for a number of seasons.

    Paul Fitz mentioned on the WAC podcast that 14 players they had from 2016 or 2017 have seen playing time this year so it’s not like they’ve had huge turnover since 2019.

    We also beat Galway in 2016 in a key promotion game and they could now be in their second final.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,349 ✭✭✭rrs


    I heard on a podcast Armagh are one of the few counties where they rarely lose players from a panel, even fringe players. Jarly Og Burns was going to opt out at the start of the year but commited. He has been coming on from the subs and making an impact. Campbell would start on most teams.

    McGeeney is there a long time and has them all commited.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166 ✭✭etuzyuk


    It takes something really special in a coach to stay at a job that long and still have the ears of the dressing room and be able to build a panel of players to keep coming back for more after setbacks.

    To think there's so many in Cavan would turn down their noses at Geezer is depressing.



  • Posts: 653 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    He's done well with Armagh no doubt.

    But he's not a likeable figure. Look at his post match interview yesterday. It's all about him, his critics etc. He's an egomaniac.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,736 ✭✭✭celt262




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,366 ✭✭✭Cavan_King


    I don’t think people would turn their nose up but he’s not well liked after his role in the Johnston debacle.

    In fairness, but for the players, the Armagh supporters wanted him gone long ago.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 473 ✭✭mylestheslasher


    Yep and for that reason he shouldn't be let near Cavan, not that he'd want to come near us anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 473 ✭✭mylestheslasher


    Here is what I wonder, when we pick coaches for our underage development squads are we picking "names" or lads in the clique or are they genuinely going out trying to get the best coaches that they can get in the county who understand the game (those are not necessarily former county players). I dont know the answer to that question myself. I did hear an interview on wearecavan a year ago with Mick Flynn after his U16s won the All Ireland last year and I thought he was fantastic. Has Mick Flynn ever been involved with boys/mens football coaching?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,325 ✭✭✭baconsarnie


    Fair play to Armagh in getting to the All Ireland final but as you said, lots of people wanted him gone a fair while. I had a friend from Armagh who wanted him sacked since the summer of 2019 :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,325 ✭✭✭baconsarnie


    Even if he wins the All Ireland and was "available" in the next five years, I wouldn't touch him with a barge pole. As pointed out by Cavan King, I can't forget his role in the whole Johnston fiasco. He's also an ego maniac, and whilst the Armagh players might buy into it, he's there a long time and still hasn't won anything.

    Aside from that, barring McHugh outside managers don't work for us and rarely work full stop. Interesting out of the All Ireland qualifiers to my mind only Louth, Clare, Roscommon and Derry had outside managers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,349 ✭✭✭rrs


    They had some bad losses for a few good years in Ulster ,and were a yo yo team in the league. McGeeney has shaken up the backroom team in recent years with the addition of Donaghy and Conleith Gilligan this year,look a more solid team.

    Rafferty got praise for the his attacking role as a keeper, but he was really poor as the basics. Blaine Hughes is a good shot stopper, and has given their team less panic moments by not leaving the nets on every attack



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,366 ✭✭✭Cavan_King


    There isn’t a choosing of coaches for development squads. At this stage, help is that short, it’s whoever puts their hand up to go in, hence you then see a correlation between a coach from a club and the number of lads from that club on the squad.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 207 ✭✭mogue77


    Gavin Devlin going back to Louth as underage football development coordinator, now that is a good move and Louth progressing.



  • Posts: 653 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Im not sure why a lack of coaches would result in a correlation between the players in the squad and the clubs they coach in? If everyone put their hand up to coach at development level, why would that solve the issue of people choosing players from their own clubs?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,366 ✭✭✭Cavan_King


    I didn’t say it would - coaches from the clubs should only be carefully chosen based on their experience and results.

    We should be doing better for our development squads.

    There’s been a “brain drain” in Breffni for years now - the employed coaches stay a few years, hone their skills and leave. Surely that needs to be looked at.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 207 ✭✭mogue77


    They should try to get fellows like Michael hannon and jimmy Higgins from crosserlough involved in development squads.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,349 ✭✭✭rrs


    Some amount of play offs and relegation play offs. The bottom team should go down automatically and second and 3rd bottom play off. Drumlane lost to Redhills last week but are playing Kill in another play off this week



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,884 ✭✭✭Bummer1234




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,366 ✭✭✭Cavan_King


    Gowna gave the Gaels a fair hammering last night. I can’t see why people are allegedly putting money on the Gaels based on League form - sure they have one county player now whereas Crosserlough & Gowna are missing several.

    Killygarry must be very short odds to win Division 2. Very stupid that they have won nearly every game yet find themselves in a play off against Ballinagh, a limited team but one you’ll get nothing easy off.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,349 ✭✭✭rrs


    Most of the league is played without County players. Cavan Gaels were the same last year in the league, won a lot of games but beaten in the semis.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,366 ✭✭✭Cavan_King


    I can’t see Gowna being stopped. They’re now at a stage where their squad is that good, the players can’t afford any complacency because one poor performance and they could lose their place.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,349 ✭✭✭rrs


    Yeah Gowna look to have a stronger panel then last year. David Phillips back after a few years in Sligo ,and Cian Bannon. A few Minors like Shane Donahue give them more option In the forwards.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,325 ✭✭✭baconsarnie


    They carry a huge goal threat. When they are on form, they go for goals and can be ruthless. I think they will be hard stopped alight if they can keep hungry



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 207 ✭✭mogue77


    I would love to see them in Ulster , with more experience I think they could go well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,366 ✭✭✭Cavan_King


    Ridiculous in Division Two. Killygarry lose to Ballinagh in play off and aren’t promoted after not losing a game in League matches.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,349 ✭✭✭rrs


    That's a right blow for Killygarry. Ballinagh would still have some good players and Eamon McEvoy is back this year, but a game Killygarry should have been winning. They lack something when the pressure comes on. Didn't see out the drawn game last year against Gowna when they were coasting.



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