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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,849 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    11% fixed rate for, 25 years?

    You need a financial panther missus

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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 10,652 Mod ✭✭✭✭squonk


    What’s wrong with scrapping inheritance tax. Tge property has a notional value at the time however whatever activity you undertake with the property will be taxed, tax on rental income or sales tax.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭tohaltuwi


    Joe is definitely doing financial planning with regards to the 3 twins inheritance.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    My grandfather was brought to court in one of the previous Water Taxes eras. He refused to pay and had letter from the corpo exempting him from decades before. The Judge gave out to be corpo for bringing an auld man to court and threw their case out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,426 ✭✭✭✭2smiggy


    people should be able to leave their assets, that they have already paid tax on, to who or what ever they want. Be it their son or daughter or the family cat. They should be able to pick who deserves the assets. Not many would choose gurriers from coolock or passport less north africans



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,971 ✭✭✭✭dvcireland


    a minor British entertainer lived nearby, he's been on multiple "Got Talent" tv shows and would regularly spend €300 on scratch cards in one visit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,003 ✭✭✭avfc1874


    Same as nytol in the chemist

    I wanted two boxes,

    We can only serve one box at a time,

    So i bought one,

    Walked to the door turned round,

    And asked for a box of nytol 🤔

    Crazy world



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,241 ✭✭✭Brian Scan


    They can leave the asset to whomever they want. That person, depending on their relationship to the disponer, will pay tax at 33% on any amount over their threshhold. While this will affect me I don't think that's it's particularly unfair as I haven't made any contribution to whatever I will get.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,426 ✭✭✭✭2smiggy


    but the owner of the asset has paid tax on it already, and should be free to give it to who ever they want. there are many many people in the country, and arriving into the country, who have made zero contributions to what they receive each week. BTW this will not affect me, I just think it is a rotten system.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 10,652 Mod ✭✭✭✭squonk


    Yes, I don’t get why an asset already having tax legitimately paid on it by its owner should attract further tax when it’s transferred on to another party via inheritance. The concept of “contribution” is stupid and j don’t get the views of some here. There are many forms of contribution, not all off them monetary. A person leaving property to an individual isn’t doing it to some randomer. It’s a family member or friend who is important to the owner in some way and has contributed to the owners life.

    Having inherited a property, I might want to renovate. I pay tax. I might want to sell, I pay tax on the profits then or I want to rent, I also pay tax on that. I’m even penalised now if I leave the property vacant. So basically I attract tax anyway but just for fun and giggles, let’s throw on a 33% charge on the notional value of the property just because we can.



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    It is to pay for de Unwaged and de Unwell. I don't say that lightly. I remember getting a cheque in de EBS made out to de Collector General. De wurse type of cheque, your wan in de building society says to me. It was for 40k, the guts of a couple years wages before de tax it was... The f*****s changed the rules a few weeks later, it would have been 7k less.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,460 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Most wealth is tied up in property which increases in value. I'd be in favour of a wealth tax rather than more tax on labour, and inheritance tax is a fair way to keep societal harmony.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 10,652 Mod ✭✭✭✭squonk


    yes but property isn’t liquid. I can inherit a house worth 1 million IF I sell it right now. I might move in though and decide to sell in 2 years time by which point it’s worth 500,000 due to a crash. Thing is, a house might be worth a million if valued today but the tax forces me to sell if I don’t have 330,000 in my back pocket. Ingeritance tax assumes I want to be 600,000 “wealthy” whereas I might just want a nice house in a nice area.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,971 ✭✭✭✭dvcireland


    I'm watching the tonight virgin media show, the housing minister is on, Oliver made some comments about him being upset about not getting a promotion



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭tohaltuwi


    hence my mother sought tons of advice, re minimum money to state abt 2004, etc, and acted on it. Mindfull that having nothing in bank account, she spent it out strategically, and she’d housed every minute of it all 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,764 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,426 ✭✭✭✭2smiggy


    very well put. not many cannot afford to inherit the house they are left. having to sell a family home just to pay this tax on it. Seeing the carryon in Coolock, this is where the money is going, funding both sides. Most people are well taxed all their working lives, and then they decide to take another cut. The bigger the amount the more successful you were.

    I don't know the ins and outs of it, but I would guess that it effects middle class/normal people a lot more than the wealthy, as I assume they have ways and means of transferring wealth that a normal person may not. They are not giving up 33% …



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 10,652 Mod ✭✭✭✭squonk


    Yes, With a substantial property I’m sure there are options there. I know farms are protected. I happen to agree with that. From what I can see the “Inheritance Tax” scheme is nothing more than a way to force the average person to liquify assets so the government can get their cut. Once liquified the money left post tax attracts additional tax either through sitting in an account or purchase of a new property or investment. I see this as being “wrong”.

    It could be that inheriting a decent property in an established area from a parent without tax implications allows a family to upscale their property in line with their grosing family and allows them to pay back a loan for renovations rather than a mortgage for a new purchase. This seems like a better outcome to me. If they have an existing property it may either end up on the market or in rental. That outcome will attract its own tax. Arguments along the lines of “property tax prevents property being accumulated by a small number at the top of the tree” are BS in modern society. I don’t doubt it made sense in the 19th and even into the 20th century but in modern society I don’t see people likely to hoard property within families. In fact, given the heated market, we should allow families upscale if a parents property is a better fit. It will then free up their old property for occupancy, either through rental or sale. Right now, if they inherit the parental home, they either spend a substantial lump to pay inheritance tax, or sell, paying the tax and leaving them running around looking for a new similar property in a good area. They then incur extra costs through conveyance fees etc. Having paid the inheritance tax, they also pay stamp duty on a new purchase. How this is not seen as a government scam is beyond me.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Joe,

    De elixir of youth has been found. It may not be eternal but is good enough, so to speak. You can do de show for another 10 years and postpone de twin's Inheritance Tax worries.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭tohaltuwi




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭tohaltuwi


    JOE

    Bust Budget, family home inheritance from yesterday. Inheritance Brats

    Tánauste sez no change

    Amazon, porch pirates following vans and thieving.

    Something about little business have to close.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,971 ✭✭✭✭dvcireland


    • 209, economy collapsed, childer are brats
    • amazon prime day, china clears its warehouses of shite
    • fleadh in wexford, no shortage of peeple with no taste in music


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,971 ✭✭✭✭dvcireland




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭tohaltuwi


    Porch theft is happening on my estate. We were asked not to make online orders for delivery if we are not guaranteed to be here by management company ¯\_(ツ)_/¯



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Today in Studio S7.1:

    • Command Chair: Joe. He will be "with us all Summer" back from de well earned holidays.
    • Guest Chairs: Empty.

    Possible Topics:

    • Joe is a great lad altogether.
    • Stuff de Researchers found on social media.
    • DEATH Tax: Inheritance tax is too high at 33%, when compaired to odder countries. Joe is Tax Planning for de 3 Twins. Should be done away with. More from Yesterday.
    • Amazon Prime: Porch Pirates and same day delivers, put de small lad out of business.
    • Wexford 'Fla': Ordinary business have to close down for it. Only Hotels benefit

    Banned Topics:

    • Wolfe Tone vs Montrose
    • State of Hospitals
    • De Unwell
    • De Undocumented
    • RVM Machine Tax
    • Inflation
    • Lack of Doctors
    • Lack of Dentists
    • Lack of Gaffs
    • Lack of punishment for Crime


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 10,652 Mod ✭✭✭✭squonk


    I wonder which triplet is getting the clontarf estate? Sounds like he’s figuring all that out at the moment!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,671 ✭✭✭littlevillage




  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 10,652 Mod ✭✭✭✭squonk


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    De triplets so to speak! I see the lads inherited the oul lads scowl!



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    You know there is only one favourite, de daughter. She is a teacher, so will never be able to afford a house on her own. The lads both wurk for big businesses, so are grand!



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