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Reliability of 4/5 year old car?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 134 ✭✭mikeoc85




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,703 ✭✭✭Wildly Boaring


    I know it's not on your list, but having gone through the same thing three years ago, we ended up with a Honda CRV. Getting three car seats across the back of most cars is impossible. No reliability issues with our car so far anyway

    i've had plenty of older premium cars. BMWs can have their issues.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,070 ✭✭✭✭fits


    sliding doors are very very convenient as well when you have car seats. Try getting bucket seats out of both sides in many car parks!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,341 ✭✭✭OfflerCrocGod


    We have a SEAT Alhambra. It's been great, I would have preferred electric but there weren't any 7 seaters available at the time.



  • Posts: 4,333 ✭✭✭ Crosby Numerous Meatball


    I wouldn't touch it man, imo you will just be buying someone elses about to be problem.

    My issue would not be with the engine or gearbox, if serviced properly that's no issue. It's all the electrics and other stuff that invariably will start to go wrong over the next 40k miles



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,949 ✭✭✭geotrig


    I will throw another car that I'm fairly sure could take 3 seats in the back … and i quiet like them as well citroen C5 aircross



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,060 ✭✭✭✭pgj2015


    Are Ford still reliable? I had a 1.6 petrol 2002 focus for 4 years, a ball joint was all I ever had to replace on it, great car.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,430 ✭✭✭easygoing39


    2015 Fiesta here on 80,000 Miles,nothing replaced yet outside of oil,filter's,brake pads/disc's.Passed last NCT with no advisor notes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,994 ✭✭✭RINO87


    We were in a similar situation this time last year...a 3 year old and newborn twins....

    Took a gamble on a 2005 XC90 and it's been fantastic. I had a fair idea of what to look out for on these, but still a near 20 year old car as a daily is always a gamble.

    Its been pretty flawless so far, we've out about 20k km on it in the year, serviced it, changed gearbox oil etc myself but that's been about it....touch wood!

    They layout of the xc90 is great, the now 4 year old and 1 year old twins fit in the middle row no problem. The boot is HUGE with the back row folded, and can still fit a double buggy with the back seats up. Extra seats handy for cousins and friends (not adults tho!) Middle seat in the middle row has a built in booster too which is handy. You can remove part of the centre console in the front, and slide the middle booster seat all the way forward, so the 4 year old feels like she is up front. Pockets and storage everywhere.

    Yes it's sluggish enough, but it's a big safe comfortable tank!!

    Tax is it's worst downfall.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49 Pauljmeh


    OP has asked about the reliability of this car?

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    and people are suggesting this.

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    I think it's fair to ask, has anyone here got a Volvo XC90 or is anyone here a mechanic, what are the known issues with one of these cars that has a full service history and how reliable are they in comparison to other luxury vehicles like BMW, Mercedes etc?

    Personally I struggle to understand how a car that has more expensive parts and retails at twice the cost of a Hyundai/Skoda could be less reliable. If they were the pieces of junk that they're made out to be here then why are there so many of them that are 10+ years old on the road?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,830 ✭✭✭CMOTDibbler


    There was a lot of trouble (electrical I think) with ones around 2016 vintage. But earlier and later ones didn't have this afaik.

    I think a lot of the unreliability talk derives from this particular model year.

    But best to do a lot of Googling and maybe look at some of the owner's forums.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,070 ✭✭✭✭fits


    I suggested this. Drove one a few years ago and I think they are class. I almost bought an xc90 a few years ago too but went with a q5 which ended up needing a new engine so… you win some you lose some. Still have the q5.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49 Pauljmeh


    It wasn't meant as a dig and obviously people are taking their time out trying to be helpful. i personally like the Galaxy but seems like the OP has ruled MPVs out

    There seems to be a lot of hate for luxury cars, obviously there's a premium to be paid for parts but if the likes of Volvo and BMW were as unreliable as people say then people wouldn't be spending big money on them.

    The Discoverys are case and point, luxury brand but because they're unreliable they're about 30% cheaper for same year, mileage and spec.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,382 ✭✭✭User1998


    If you think that a car will be more reliable just because it is more expensive to buy then you would be mistaken. Generally speaking the more expensive a car is to buy the less reliable its going to be and the more its going to cost to fix. Obviously there are some out liars like Lexus

    Toyota, Nissan, Honda, Suzuki, cheap to buy, cheap to fix, and reliable.

    BMW, Mercedes, Porshce, Land Rover, expensive to buy, expensive to fix, not very reliable.

    And then you have a middle ground like VW, Skoda, Hyundai, Ford, Opel, reasonably affordable and reasonable cheap to fix. Not the most reliable cars on the road but they do good overall



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49 Pauljmeh


    But this is my point, basically you're saying that the cheapest cars are the most reliable and the most expensive are least reliable. When you look on our roads, the more expensive cars are the most common in the 10+ years age bracket.

    People associate reliability with cost to fix when they're two different things.


    Are there any mechanics here who can give first hand experience?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,382 ✭✭✭User1998


    I’m sorry but claiming the majority of 10+ year old cars on our roads are more expensive brands is completely anecdotal and untrue. I checked Donedeal and there are 2000 Toyotas for sale over 10 years old. 1400 Mercs and 1400 BMW’s. So your theory isn’t stacking up at all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,382 ✭✭✭User1998


    And you can’t compare BMW Audi or Merc to the likes of Honda Suzuki or Mazda because they were never sold in big numbers here hence why you wouldn’t see that many older ones on the road



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 286 ✭✭mankteln


    There's surely more Toyotas sold each year though so it's not really comparing like with like. I do think you see more older premium makes still going but a big part of that is definitely perceived value (owning a premium make is achievable after depreciation) and the fact that they're still comfortable places to be even when they're old.

    I know NCT pass rates based on age, make and model are available as I remember seeing it before but don't have it to hand (think it was a giant spread sheet of statistics). This website has it until 2017 so not completely recent but if you look at 2000-2017 mercedes has the second highest pass rate behind Kia:

    My own anecdotal experience over the last 4 years has been that my 2007 Merc has cost me less in repairs than our Nissan that's 7 years younger.

    https://public.tableau.com/app/profile/idiro.analytics/viz/NCT2017Top20Makes/NCT2017-20MostPopularMakes



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 286 ✭✭mankteln


    When I say more older premium makes still going I mean as a proportion of the numbers originally sold btw. You'd definitely see more of some of the other brands, Toyota in particular.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,382 ✭✭✭User1998


    In proportion with the numbers sold is fair enough. That being said I would imagine a 20 year old Toyota or Nissan is far more likely to be scrapped and crushed than a 20 year old Merc or BMW since they are worth so much less? Like people would have no problem scraping a €300 Yaris compared to a €1500 Merc or BMW? That might be a contributing factor as to why premium brands are kept on the road



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,693 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    Young lads will always buy a cheap old BMW or Merc or Audi so you still see a good few around proportional to how many they sell new each year.

    I did it myself in my youth slowly building up to newer (but still used) models.

    They all cause all sort of problems though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,256 ✭✭✭PukkaStukka


    We flogged my wife's 2014 CMax diesel recently which she'd had since a year old. Nothing, and I mean nothing gave trouble with it. Insanely reliable. She's taken on a Tuscon that was my brother's car and is a low miler. It's needed a door lock and a rear shock replaced (both known issues) but has otherwise been fine. Advice also given was to half the oil change intervals with it, which were doing. I think reliability nowadays does have much to do with how well a car is driven and maintained.



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