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GP Wait Times - your experience please….

  • 16-07-2024 04:53PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,839 ✭✭✭✭


    folks,

    Just trying to get an appreciation of how long in general people are having to wait for their GP appointments nowadays….

    Called today and flabbergasted that the quickest I can see my GP is 8 days from today. Which is in diplomatic terms, not good enough … in less diplomatic terms, in a civilised first world country… a load of ********

    My GP is an extremely gifted medical professional… but they are involved also directly in politics, very left wing and going by their X, very empathetic towards a certain cause du jour shall we say… 🇺🇦

    Ultimately standards in medicine / healthcare are regulated, well supposed to be…. But having to wait that duration for a GP appointment is far below any appropriate standard as I’d perceive it. If you have an issue the quicker you can be seen actually has an impact on the outcome and if you can’t see your GP for over one week…

    Before i proceed I’m looking for feedback from other posters as to what their experience has been this year in relation to attaining GP appointments…thanks.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72,887 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    This is going to be extremely regional, down to specific towns.

    I can get an appointment tomorrow afternoon; or yesterday about lunchtime I could have got one within ~3 hours (I've had reason to check and indeed book); but I don't go to a local GP. It's about your eight days if I go local.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 61,614 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    Its about a week for a few in Galway City area from myself and friends experience of course there's a bit of luck involved if you can standby for cancellations



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭Sponge25


    I had to wait over two weeks to see my GP but I got another appointment I was at today which took 6 days. If you're not bad enough for A&E but are in a bad condition, it's fairly intolerable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 924 ✭✭✭radiotrickster


    Mine tend to vary. Sometimes it’s a couple of days, sometimes it’s later that day. My main issue is they say you’re limited to ten minutes per appointment and one problem per appointment. So if you develop two problems that seem completely unrelated, they may turn you away and say you need another appointment.

    They’ve not refused me yet but one of the doctors did get a bit snappy when I went for a prescription renewal and asked could they look at an issue with my arm in the same appointment.

    At €70 for an appointment (and an extra €30 for a blood test), I already felt robbed that they wouldn’t just renew the prescription for me. If they had refused to look at my arm because they insisted on a second app, I would have been raging.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,839 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Thanks folks…..it’s weird because I’m a patient there since ‘08 or ‘09.

    There were 4 doctors working there then. Now there are 6…

    So a 50% increase in doctors on staff. But approximately 50% or so increase in the wait for an appointment…

    Intolerable is a pretty accurate descriptor…. No wonder the a&es are overcrowded too.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,360 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    If you make a case for an emergency appointment then its same day. If you want a normal appointment with a specific doctor its 5-10 working days. Waterford area.

    Wake me up when it's all over.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 61,614 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    The number of doctors retiring is way over those joining the ranks and so surgeries have seen a huge increase in the numbers they try to accommodate, funnily, personally, I've noticed a massive change negatively speaking between pre and post covid.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 789 ✭✭✭cnoc


    By how much has the population increased in your area, in that time frame?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,056 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    same here, waterford city, 14 days for a general gp appointment, didnt even try my own doc, probably somewhere near a month, own doc would be fairly left leaning, no idea why thats an issue, as our health system has been in disarray for years, long before most immigrants rocked up, government isnt gonna change, so happy happy days…..

    know people in more rural areas that if they fall sick, theyll probably just die, and it probably wouldnt be one of those quick and painless jobs either…..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,344 ✭✭✭lazeedaisy


    My GP quickest is usually a weekly AVG. Is ten days, so if you're sick, forget about it. No emergency appointments. Carlow Town



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,048 ✭✭✭Dr Turk Turkelton


    2-3 weeks in Meath. Place is an abomination. Don't know how so many people can schedule being sick so far in advance.

    Have started using the Vhi clinic in Carrickmines. An absolutely wonderful place.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,780 ✭✭✭Ezeoul


    Used to be able to see my GP within 2 days (pre-Covid). Now, he has bought the practice as the original two GPs both retired, and it is a minimum of 2 weeks for a phone consultation with him, and he now only sees patients after he has had a phone consultation first. Time from phone consultation to face-to-face visit, is another week to ten days. The practice in general has also shortened their office hours by an hour on each end, and have two half days a week, when it used to be one.

    Two new GPs in the practice, both will see patients without a prior phone consultation, but it's still ten days to two weeks. I have no confidence in either of the new GPs as I have found them both very unsure of themselves, and seem to need to check everything with the senior GP first, or their answer to everything is "oh I need to refer you to the hospital".

    I've mostly given up on my surgery for anything but my repeat prescriptions and diabetes check. Now if Im actually sick I just go straight to TLC-Doc, where at least you will get seen by a doctor within a day.

    Its a shame after being a patient at the same surgery for 40 years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,203 ✭✭✭drury..


    People in rural areas go to a+e for any serious issues

    Its always been that way here



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,780 ✭✭✭Ezeoul


    I wonder if this is such a big factor, to be honest.

    I know my GP practice tell anyone who enquires that they're not taking on new patients, and it seems like that has been the standard reply for years now. The same with other Practices in the area.

    GPs are not obliged to take on new patients, afaik.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,203 ✭✭✭drury..


    Back in the day we had 1 gp and you'd get seen the same day

    When he reiterd there was a practice with 2-3 GPS and 1 nurse and the wait times were way longer

    Go figure



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72,887 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Most likely a merger of multiple practices. Particularly if it moved in to a primary care centre at the same time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭apache


    2 weeks for me to get an appointment. One GP in a very busy practice. Sometimes I might get one in 11 or 12 days.

    I suppose I could get another Dr but I've been with him for most of my life and a lot of practices are packed and not taking on new patients.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,203 ✭✭✭drury..


    The out of hours service was a good idea but it became useless

    It was centralised here meaning a long distance to travel and it was simpler to go to a+e after hours

    They would refer you on to a+e for minor issues so it was simpler to bypass them anyhow



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,502 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    2 weeks usually.

    Blood tests can be longer because you got to book the referral from the GP, then book the test, then have GP explain the results. If any of that goes outside the 2 weeks from the start they charge you again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭Hippodrome Song Owl


    Next day usually - solo gp in West Dublin. But my gp has had a recorded message saying he's not taking any new patients for nearly 5 years now. There are no gp practices accepting new patients in any of the nearby areas, so I'm very worried about what will happen when he retires in the next 5-10 years. He told me he cannot get a locum to be able go on holidays, paying €1000 a day.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 Streifi


    Same day (or next) for urgent appointment (1-3 for myself if sick and can wait, quicker if kid sick or seriously unwell) and anything between 1-4 weeks for GP depending which one and if they have a speciality. Don't mind waiting if it's not urgent and usually seen very quickly if sick. But heard from others about waiting much longer when unwell in a different practice.

    Huge increase in patients numbers and all GPs locally oversubscribed. Medical card/GP visit card can be assigned to a practice even qhen oversubscribed but private stuck with OOH or VHI etc.

    Dublin commuter belt.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,124 ✭✭✭This is it


    Generally 2-3 days, last time I rang on Wednesday afternoon and had an appointment for the Friday morning. I moved last year but I'm still registered with my previous GP, tried to move locally but I can't even get a response.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭tohaltuwi


    I’m in south Dublin suburbs. I’m relatively lucky in that sometimes I can get an appointment next day, if I am quite sick, if I am coughing blood he might see me same day or do a telephone consultation to get me a prompt antibiotic sent to local pharmacist. I’m prone to aspiration pneumonia from my MS, so things can progress quickly. Other times I’m not urgent, or want to arrange a referral, and I make sure to inform admin that it can wait a week or so, in order that he can help slot in more urgent cases.

    However, sometimes it can depend on admin person, so if I am urgent I really have to emphasise this, and if someone is in the desk who doesn’t know my background situation could put me on the long finger. They don’t answer the phone, but do call back. They far prefer requests for appointments by email.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 385 ✭✭AUDI20


    This. If I want to see my GP it take two to three weeks, if its an emergency usually the same day or following day depending on the time you call in. But not my GP on the emergency Dungarvan Area



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭tohaltuwi


    looking back through this thread it is very evident why people go to A+E for stuff that is far more appropriate for a GP to manage. Absolutely crazy situation, complete mismanage of planning for population growth.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Appointments here over past 2-3 years are running to 2 months and that's paying full price. There are a half dozen GPs on the books. If emergency, can attend by phoning and going down and waiting till someone is free. Twenty years ago a typical appointment was a few days at most. Well populated town and big rural hinterland, lots of people.

    I'm laughing at the idea of getting an appointment in just 8 days! That'd be a deluxe service my friend.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭tohaltuwi


    one thing my GP requires is a negative Covid test if there is any fever or respiratory symptoms, plus you have to wear a mask if there is any respiratory issue. Can be a bit taxing with asthma, but understandable to avoid spreading things to other patients.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 769 ✭✭✭StormForce13


    Yep, the government needs to force women GPs to get back to working fulltime, at gunpoint if necessary! Tongue in cheek but that's a contributory factor to the GP shortage. Another very significant factor is that there are more people - old and young - with GP cards; and as they don't have to pay to see the Doctor, they tend to avail of the free service more often.

    My GP was forced to retire last summer at age 70, but is now working part-time for another busy practice. He used to charge €40, his new practice now charges €60 to see him - and it takes longer. Used to be less than a week, now it's at least a week.

    On the good side - for him - he has reduced his golf handicap by two shots!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,780 ✭✭✭Ezeoul


    My surgery doesn't do "emergency" appointments.

    I've been in the waiting room and have overheard the battleaxes at reception turning people down very harshly.

    You also have to divulge the details of your illness to them in advance "so they can put it on the system", or else they won't book an appointment.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭apache


    The receptionist never asks me details. I'd be annoyed if she did.



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