Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings - updated 11/5/24*

The Green party went into this government with a lot of stuff they wanted to do whether it was unpopular or not and they knew going in that they may only have this one chance so they are ramming stuff through and don't really give a sh1t about voters.

I laughed when Ryan spouted off about having a mandate from the people the Ireland as he latched on to the FF/FG coat tails.

3% of the vote, mainly from champagne socialists in Dublin and completely irrelevant to the rest of the country, But we all have to suffer their nonsense.

That primetime interview - It's RTE so they were never going to put the boot in and ask the hard q's like 'Why are we letting these chancers in, in the first place?' - It's just never going to happen

It did show the gobsh!te up on national TV for the fool he is though and that hasn't happened before. All previous interviews were held on a bed of cotton wool and he thought he was in for more of that. When it didn't happen, he was visibly rattled. It wasn't the toughest interview, but it was the toughest he's had so far - Bearing in mind that if Sarah wanted to/had been let, she'd have left him in a gibbering heap sobbing for his ma

He has never been on in a live debate with the likes of McNamara, Mc Dowell, Tobin etc or anyone else that may have exposed his progressive policies as a crock…

3.5 years of - 'We invited minister O'Gorman to take part in the debate but he was unavailable' - How was he let away with that for so long?

O'Gorman has happily sat back and let FG, through hopeless McEntee in Justince, mainly take all the flak for what are Green policies. I am surprised FG didn't get McEntee out of Justice and put a more Senior person in there who could push back on O'Gorman. The one thing that has surprised me is FF and FG just letting the Greens do this.

Roderic O'Gorman is making an utter sh!te of accommodating Ukrainians.

He has been closing centres in Clare where they were settled, had integrated and had jobs and were in school. Those people are being taken from areas where they could easily be accommodated to Lisdoonvarna, where the concentration is far too high. It is bad for the Ukrainians, many of whom are severely traumatised children, it is bad for the areas where they had integrated successfully, and it is bad for Lisdoonvarna, which has been asked to do way, way more than its fair share.

It is a complete disgrace, illogical and very damaging for children who have been through an awful lot already.

It was suggested before that McEntee is still there as Harris wouldn’t want to be seen to give in to the far right

Well there's the gotcha of all gotchas!

I said people should be allowed used ferries where available, just as I now say they should be allowed use airlines. We can process their applications when they get here safely, while in the meantime tackling why so many people are forced to leave in the first place.

Four people travelling from France, and their families, would be in a very different position today if this was the case.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn08685l2q8o

How long more will we keep outsourcing our deterrent policies to criminal gangs putting people on dinghies. It's barbaric. Plus of course extremely ineffective. Why do people who are supposedly anti-immigration keep pushing these failed solutions. Europe wise we're 20 years and hundreds of billions behind where we could be at getting to the root of the problem.

That argument is either for the birds or just stirring sh*te up. Maybe both.

It is fundamentally ridiculous to suggest that illegal migration should be made easier.

It's very simple, if we wish to see less mishaps at sea - then reduce the pull factor. Make it very clear that the consequences are immediate with summary deportation back to country/ place of embarkation.

I might also suggest that your continued use of this 'tragic drownings' argument falls on deaf ears. There is no doubt that most humans would be distressed at dealing with drowned people in the flesh. But when it's used as propaganda, we can all see the simplistic attempt to manipulate from a mile off and ignore it. It's meaningless.

Did you access it by it's land border ?

But Italians speak Italian, Germans speak German, that isn’t deterring AS from going to those places. If the pull factors that exist here were the same in Japan they would be going there in high numbers too

Worth a few minutes

What are you even talking about? 😂

You continually ask the same set of questions to me and multiple others, you have continually been given answers by me and multiple others. For some reason you then ask the same questions again and demand the answers again…. but by all means keep circling that drain… anyway, your entire argument is slowly slipping into chaos.

To sum up your recent suggestions:

1. Ireland is a disgraceful country, somehow its our fault people are choosing to cross the med in boats and some are subsequently dying.
2. We should ignore all current laws and transport a seemingly unlimited number of people here either by boat or plane to process their supposed asylum claim.
3. We are not to deport anyone because its hard and we might offend someone and it will leave us divided.
4. We are and I quote "outsourcing our deterrent policies to criminal gangs"
5. Do not worry, all of this will resolved at some imaginary point in the future where we all come together and eradicate poverty in the global south.

I am actually nearly lost for words at this stage - the utter stupidity of the above cannot be understated, what makes it worse is that you cant even see it - its a purely emotional response devoid of any logic.

If your goal was to have everyone here laughing at you, I think it is safe to say you achieved it.

Saw another Tent on Sandymount Beach this morning , red line crossed ;-) , luckily I have an early routine , I dont mind making inquiries at 5AM , 6AM or 7AM , if whoever is there wants a night's sleep they better move on