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Do you use the radio in you car? I do.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,132 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    Usually put 20 credit on my phone every 4 months or so, mainly for calls and text, also get 250 Mb data. Use it mostly using home or work Wi-Fi but I also have a work phone if needed. I get that some people have no interest in news stations but they are my interest and I still enjoy flicking around radio music stations



  • Posts: 322 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You sure there isn't a "fair use" policy in the T&C's? I use 48, 100GB, any network text and calls for 10.99. Never run out of data and I'm almost always using Spotify or YouTube.

    Edit: pretty certain they also have 12.99 deal that has double the data, if you "need" more than 200GB a month for just your phone you're probably up to no good 😁



  • Posts: 322 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yep, using your phone as a hotspot would burn through data alright.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,161 ✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    Internet - 4G - Spotify App on Phone - Bluetooth - FM transmitter - FM Radio - Speakers

    I use all the networks to get Spotify to my car speakers 😁

    Thing about FM/AM/Radio though is that it's "free", can broadcast 1 way to everybody in the country and uses very little power. The amount of power and bandwidth required to deliver the broadcast is the same for 1 user or a million users. Also the receivers require very little power.

    I would imagine some form of communication like this would always be necessary, especially in disaster situations.

    4/5G has black spots, uses a lot more power and bandwidth, and this goes up as the number of users go up.



  • Posts: 322 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The 4/5G blackspot issue is why I download all my Spotify playlists and podcasts to my devices local storage and just run the app in offline mode most of the time.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,161 ✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    Yeah I do that cause we've 1 account we share here and I have download rights 😁

    But, I guess my point was, that won't work for live digital radio over 4/5G for example.

    Definitely think a FM/am radio is always useful to have. Maybe it'll go this way. People will have to buy cheap FM/am radios that Bluetooth to the car audio system if they want radio broadcasts.



  • Posts: 322 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I remember as a kid you could pop off the user interface to deter smash and grabs of your radio, now hardly no one wants them 😁.

    Yeah I get your point about the coverage. I guess I'm just one for avoiding streaming where possible. I think we're in the 17th or 18th year of eternally promised and yet undelivered coverage improvements when it comes to cellular and internet coverage. Who knows, they might actually get it done one day. Not holding my breath though!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,464 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    I signed up with gomo in 2019 and I'm on unlimited calls texts and data for 9.99 since. It even includes roaming, not quite unlimited but more than enough. I've completely forgotten about having a mobile contract by now. My phone is my car radio. If they have a fair usage policy I havent found the limit yet.

    Unless you're like - I dont know what teenagers do these days on their phones, high res video edits in the cloud or gaming or something…? I lost my trail but my point was going to be its hard to need a big contract these days IMO. Only reason I can think of is getting that expensive phone you havent the cash for.



  • Posts: 322 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Fair usage isn't necessarily a hard limit per se, it's their way of warning you that if traffic on the network becomes congested enough to effect the average user experience they can cut you off at a certain point. Most Fair use policies for "all you can use" data plans quote anywhere from 60-150GB depending on service and provider. When I worked for Eir we had a FTTH bundles with "unlimited Data" that had a monthly fair use cutoff of 150GB unless you were willing to pay the extra beans for an upgraded service. However, this was back between 2017 and 2018.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,464 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    I imagine it's way more these days w home broadband. Family w teenagers wfh then 4k streaming and social media all day will go through a 100 gig in no time at all.



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  • Posts: 322 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Given Eir's marketing practices I wouldn't be so sure they don't still do that. Part of the reason why I left that job. I couldn't sell anything because it was all so overtly not a deal by any stretch.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,159 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Same here, I often hotspot, watch netflix or similar on the train ride home a few times a week, it is a non cost at this point. That 9.99 deal is great.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,916 ✭✭✭BrianD3


    I have gotten out of listening to the radio but am starting again as I want to wean myself off screens as much as possible (I only look at screens when parked up but the bullsh*t is still a distraction and time sink)

    Just got a new aerial for one of the cars in Halfords.

    And for the Mk1 Megane, I got bulbs for the dash radio display as they had blown.

    Plenty of CDs too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 603 ✭✭✭Shan Doras


    What the radio industry lobby group is actually asking is to ensure that Irish radio stations are "easy to find" on modern car radios regardless if it's FM or Streaming



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,028 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    4k films I stream on Real Debrid /Streamio can be 65-70Gb a pop. You'd go through that in a film and a half!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,028 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    I bought myself a lovely Sony Digital Audio Player, filled it with 300Gb of FLAC music and just use that over Bluetooth. Tend to just listen to albums through without ever looking at a screen, it's great.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,649 ✭✭✭Archeron


    Would listen to fm radio in the car commuting, but that's it.

    CASH MACHINE!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,106 ✭✭✭Jellybaby_1


    The only time I listen to the radio is in the car, Pat Kenny in the morning, or Sean Moncrieff in the afternoon. Unfortunately I rarely get to hear the whole programme but if there is something I want to share with those at home I'll probably pull it up online for them as well. If they get rid of radios in cars I'm bringing me tranny!!! (showing my age there!)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    We have learners/ new drivers in that space and I can't believe the amount of faffing about with music/ satnav/ electronic displays, speed limiters etc. The RSA would do well to get out & about, lift their heads up and campaign at EU level on these matters. The phone was just the start of this trend as far as I can see.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,402 ✭✭✭Comhrá


    Same here. I love current affairs, news and chat when on the road and only resort to music if there's nothing of interest to me on the radio.

    A car with no fm radio? I'd find it difficult. I have Gomo on my phone so data isn't an issue but that's more screens and apps to fiddle around with while driving.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,949 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    I never listen to the radio, talk shows were just a bunch of idiots grabbing on with ads seemingly every 30 seconds

    I suppose the argument is that the radio stations could just broadcast over the internet and you'd still be able to listen to them (if you even wanted to)

    The actual radio technology is pretty ancient, nothing wrong with that but unless there's some kind of technical reason they need to be in the car then it's worth asking why it's there

    For example AM radio is apparently used for a lot of traffic emergency broadcasting in the US, so they're basically keep AM alive

    In terms of an industry, we've podcasting and music on demand now so it's hard to see where broadcast radio will still fit in

    It's also a lot cheaper to produce a podcast than to manage broadcasting equipment, so it's easy to see where the future investment will be

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,337 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    That's very modern but I don't think you are allowed to call them that now. They can have all different genders and you should treat them with respect.

    But back on topic. If they do away with radio, the first thing I'll do is ring Joe Duffy to complain.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,962 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    All cars have radios. Where did you hear otherwise 👀



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,140 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    There was something of a move by the car manufacturers to get away from radio installations over on my side of the Atlantic, but it's hitting legislative opposition. Radios in cars tend to be the only radios equipped with a power source that most people have, and if the government wants to put emergency messages out in a disaster (hurricane, earthquake, nuclear war etc), the car radio is the way to reach them.

    https://www.wired.com/story/am-radio-cars-law-requires/

    In the US and Canada we have a subscription based satellite radio. There are some 500 stations available overall, though most car radios are limited to receiving about the first 180. (The others are available through an app). There are several advantages which make it worth the money. Firstly, there are no commercials. Secondly, unless you want to listen to one, there are none of those godawful morning shows. The last time I took a drive around Ireland on a weekday morning, I couldn't find music. I found morning hosts yammering at each other, doing call ins from the public, and generally speaking I'd rather listen to nails on blackboards. Thirdly, as it's satellite based, the stations are available nationwide. If I want to listen to nothing but hair bands while I did my quarterly 900km drive across the West Texas desert, without a single advert, I can do it.

    The only time I listened to terrestrial radio in the last two decades in the US was commuting in the San Francisco area. An all-news AM station which ran traffic reports every ten minutes.



  • Posts: 322 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    If I can ever afford a car that comes with this nonsense as standard the first thing I'm doing to it is deleting it and just replacing it with a simple no nonsense dashboard.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,949 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    The RSA doesn't do **** about how cars are built

    Also learners don't use the radio or satnav, they're supposed to be listening to the instructor 😉

    An alternative to disabling the speed and lane warnings is to drive below the speed limit and not change lanes without indicating 😜

    FWIW, I do miss some physical buttons in my car, temperature, volume and next song would be enough IMO

    Apparently the next set of European NCAP standards will push back on having too many functions controlled via the touchscreen

    The issue is the functions that are done via the touchscreen aren't considered essential, you shouldn't mess around with the radio/AC/satnav unless it's safe to do so, regardless of whether they've buttons or not

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Posts: 322 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Pretty certain a lot of the newer BMW's require that centre console to alter settings for the driving modes and maintenance items like oil level check and such and others like Audi and VW are following suit in some of their options. Probably driven by the demand for a Tesla style system but without owning a Tesla.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,949 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    VW is the same, but those wouldn't be considered essential functions when driving. Things like wipers and indicators are and that seems to be what NCAP are after

    I assume this is on the back of Tesla moving functions like wipers to the touchscreen

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 477 ✭✭cc


    It was/is so difficult for new operators to enter the radio market here and going by this thread alone FM has a lot of competition, that is what they should be more concerned with.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,949 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Yeah this seems like a key fork in the argument

    There's a decent case to be made that analog radios should be in cars for emergency broadcasting

    However you could just as easily argue that putting them in phones would be more effective for reaching people (also, welcome back headphone jacks 😂)

    The other fork to the argument is whether broadcast radio for entertainment has a future. This is a lot more dubious IMO with more creators moving to different methods of reaching their audience there just doesn't seem space for radio

    Maybe it'll end up that there'll be a radio network maintained by RTE at taxpayer expense for essential broadcasting and the rest of the stations will die off

    Alternatively, maybe ComReg will loosen up licensing and we'll get a bunch of semi pirate stations cropping up, which could be a bit of fun to see

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



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