2024 F1 General Discussion Thread

Verstappen has already said he is not going anywhere for 2025.

Red Bull also don't want Sainz and Verstappen in the same team due to the past issues their fathers seem to have with each other.

If Marc sleep on Anontelli, someone else will snap him up

Keep hoping.

Off ya pop 😘

Hmmmmm
https://racingnews365.com/toyota-working-on-return-to-formula-one

probably lies Haas , suddenly becomes interesting

The 2026 ruleset is shifting back to a more engine focused formula. And there's a new set of engine regs too.

Red bull got ground effect right. But they have nothing to show (yet) as to how well they can create and develop an engine. Mercedes do.

Except the man who was responsible for Mercedes-Benz's all mighty power horse is now at Aston Martin in a not building engine role.

Odd

Zak Brown has been doing nothing but try to stir **** with RedBull, he's a clown. RedBull should be telling him exactly where to go

I find that hard to believe really, not calling it not real, but Brown must have a neck like a jockeys bollox to be asking them for help. I'd imagine that Honda would totally off the cards as well.

Just on this, does this mean that Renault will be dumping the engine project, must be the case?

Your opinions seems to focus solely on the current situation without looking into the deeper intricacies of F1. According to good sources such as The Race and Motorsport, Red Bull’s engine development isn’t on a positive trajectory, and there are rumors that Verstappen isn’t pleased with it. These guys are in the paddock every weekend speaking with team members. Despite being a top team at the moment, Max Verstappen won’t likely stay with Red Bull. It’s worth noting that Adrian Newey, was significantly involved in trackside setup, he has stepped back from direct team involvement, and Red Bull’s performance has already suffered as a result. It's probably not directly related but it wouldn't have helped. Max’s statement that it’s not about Newey is likely a PR move; he wouldn’t openly criticise the team. Considering Red Bull’s lack of an OEM engine and Newey’s departure, they may face challenges ahead. While I don’t hold any bias against them, it’s important to consider potential outcomes based on solid evidence. You said two weeks ago that Lewis Hamilton was done and I told you to look at the bigger picture. Opinions can differ, but sometimes its good to take a broader view. Mercedes is better positioned for the upcoming rule changes. I’m confident that Max will move to Mercedes, possibly by 2025 or at the latest, 2026. If there wasn't rumours Max was looking around, Mercedes would have signed a driver by now and Carlos would already be in a seat too.

Your opinions seems to focus solely on the current situation without looking into the deeper intricacies of F1. According to good sources such as The Race and Motorsport, Red Bull’s engine development isn’t on a positive trajectory, and there are rumors that Verstappen isn’t pleased with it. 

Proof, please. I read The Race a lot and listen to their podcasts, there has been zero mention of any of this. None.

Despite being a top team at the moment, Max Verstappen won’t likely stay with Red Bull. It’s worth noting that Adrian Newey, was significantly involved in trackside setup, he has stepped back from direct team involvement, and Red Bull’s performance has already suffered as a result.

Newey has nothing to do with trackside setup, he is a technical director. Trackside set up rests on race engineers and mechanics. He also still works for Red Bull and was at the track at the weekend. What in gods name are you waffling about?

Max’s statement that it’s not about Newey is likely a PR move; he wouldn’t openly criticise the team.

Or…and bear with me here, Max is telling the truth. Sounds more like you want to believe Max secretly hates the team he races for, makes no sense at all.

While I don’t hold any bias against them, it’s important to consider potential outcomes based on solid evidence.

Stevie Wonder could see your bias. What evidence? You have provided nothing but gossip and conjecture.

You said two weeks ago that Lewis Hamilton was done and I told you to look at the bigger picture.

He has won 1 race in 3 seasons, at a changeable race. You want to claim that he is back to his full best based off one race? Go right ahead.

Opinions can differ, but sometimes its good to take a broader view. Mercedes is better positioned for the upcoming rule changes. I’m confident that Max will move to Mercedes, possibly by 2025 or at the latest, 2026. If there wasn't rumours Max was looking around, Mercedes would have signed a driver by now and Carlos would already be in a seat too.

Let's look at the evidence shall we? The most recent rule change in 2022, how did that work out for Mercedes? And how did it work out for Red Bull? You can use google if you want to check the results.

Max Verstappen will not be in a Mercedes by 2025, he has already said he is stay at Red Bull, or is he secretly telling fibs and you know the real story?

There are no rumours that Max is looking around, none. The only ones saying it are Toto and Zak, they are trying to disturb Red Bull, such is how F1 works.

Anything else?

There’s nothing credible about that news source. A quick scan of their Instagram page and most of the news is made up.

Mercedes had a front row lockout and were running comfortably in first and second while it was dry. They didn't win thanks to the mixed weather, that turned an easy win into a more difficult one. They had a dominant car around Silverstone and the only issue they had was when their drivers struggled to deal with the rain on track, just not as much as McLaren's strategists struggled to deal with it in the pitlane.

They also had the fastest car in Canada but blew it. Russell gained from Norris and Verstappen colliding at Austria but he was able to pick up the pieces by being well ahead of both Ferraris along with the other Red Bull and other McLaren.

On any given weekend it looks like a toss up between Mercedes and McLaren as to who will have the best car for the conditions and track layout, but they are undoubtedly both ahead of Red Bull right now, with Max and the strategy team the only ones keeping them in contention.

Adrian Newey has already stepped back and is now primarily attending races, which I believe is common knowledge. He also provides advice on trackside matters, another widely known fact.

Widely known really? Care to share them at all? He is still working for RB but in a reduced capacity. Even at that, they haven't lost speed or anything due to him, it is more to do with other teams catching up and being consistent.

While I appreciate that your opinions are based on firsthand observations and statements from drivers and team principals, it’s important to acknowledge that Formula 1 is inherently dynamic. Inconsistencies and volatility can surprise us, even when things seem straightforward. For instance, Lewis Hamilton and George Russell recently won the last two Grand Prix races, a development that you probably would have said was impossible a month ago. 

Not sure what you are trying to say here at all, are you implying that you know the workings of F1 more than us? Speaking highly of yourself there, especially when you are getting the even the basics about the dates for the rule changes kicking in totally wrong.

Russell and Hamilton won races based on different circumstances, they were not on raw pace at all.

Lighten up. You don’t need to finish each paragraph with an overt remark to try and disprove my opinion.

Thanks for the advice.