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  • #872
    silverharp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,853 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122352661#Comment_122352661

    thats the facts, Charottsville was a hoax, but its funny watching it, the Dems have a lot to process now lol what with being lied to about Biden for the last couple of years and all

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • #873
    Backstreet Moyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,408 ✭✭✭Backstreet Moyes


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122352327#Comment_122352327

    If its a fact then it should be very easy to provide evidence.

    The video provided does not state what you said.

    Obviously their must be another video so please provide the video you are talking about.



  • #874
    Hungry Burger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 803 ✭✭✭Hungry Burger


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122353367#Comment_122353367

    He won’t because it doesn’t exist. He knows this too, but feels obliged to say it as it’s a common calling card of his “side”



  • #875
    Backstreet Moyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,408 ✭✭✭Backstreet Moyes


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122353370#Comment_122353370

    The poster goes around every thread hounding people for proof of claims they make and throws out accusations of lies and misinformation.

    I would be very surprised if the poster can't provide proof.

    If not how can anyone actually take the poster serious.



  • #876
    eightieschewbaccy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,974 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122353355#Comment_122353355

    Can you clarify by what you mean by "hoax". A woman getting murdered by a Nazi, a load of white supremacist showing up with tiki torches and being incredibly racist. Trump saying in his speech that there were fine people on both sides, in this case he was more downplaying the fact one group was made up entirely of Nazis on white supremacists. All of this happened. So what didn't happen Silver?



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  • #877
    silverharp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,853 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122353391#Comment_122353391

    The hoax was that Biden ran on the hoax that Trump was supporting white supremacists, even Dem sources have debunked the claim. Its just funny watching on

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • #878
    eightieschewbaccy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,974 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122353397#Comment_122353397

    Question,what do you think "poisoning blood" means? Is there a non racist interpretation? In relation to Charlottesville, he implied that there were decent people on the right at that rally. Given the fact that the march was a build up of mainly white supremacists and Nazis, I'm inclined to say claiming there's any decent people on the right at such a rally. A decent person doesn't march in a group that's built up entirely of those people. So there was never very fine people at that march and he was praising scum.



  • #879
    silverharp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,853 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122353399#Comment_122353399

    you are just repeating the hoax just going with the line that they were a unified group, its a funny example of "two movies one screen"

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • #880
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,621 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122353417#Comment_122353417

    He gave cover to the white supremacists and neo nazis there with his dog whistling about 'fine people'.

    We saw the same dog whistling with the 'Proud Boys' stand by comment.

    Clearly, the false claims of 'hoax' has been de-hoaxed comprehensively at this stage.

    Also, you were asked a straight question about Trump using neo nazi and white supremacist language… And you have no answer to it, just like you did yesterday - because you have no credible response, other than admitting it is Trump being racist.

    Question, what do you think "poisoning blood" means?

    No hoax here, just posters trying to find desperate excuses to defend a racist \ racist dog whistler, he was racist dog whistler then, and now he is more brazen about it.

    Here's the post yesterday, where you didn't answer the same entirely relevant question.

    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122351298#Comment_122351298

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • #881
    silverharp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,853 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122353469#Comment_122353469

    "fine people" meant that you could be in favour of keeping statues without being a white supremacist, its just that they like twisting things over there and people still fall for it because it fits their bias. If people cant agree the old hoaxes there is no point creating a laundry list of new ones

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



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  • #882
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,621 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122353514#Comment_122353514

    And at the third time of asking, you are unable to offer any real reply to the relevant question, just an utterly desperate deflection of "no point creating a laundry list of new ones":

    Question, what do you think "poisoning blood" means?

    Hold on a second: what is the hoax here? There is no twisting of anything.

    This is a direct quote from Trump, invoking the language of racists, the language of white supremacists and neo nazis, the language of those 'fine people':

    Completely discrediting of your entire attempts to defend Trump of not using racist language & racist dog whistling to racists.

    Why are you going to bat defending a racist using language like:

    "ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS POISONING THE BLOOD OF OUR NATION"

    Where is the hoax?

    The only bias is in those who try to excuse the above as not being racist.

    He was dog whistling then to racists, just as he was with the Proud Boys, and now it is full blown racist language to appeal to racists with drivel about poisoning the blood of our nation.

    Why are you defending that?

    You're doing a very good job of making it appear that you agree with Trump that illegal immigration is "poisoning the blood". So if you don't, now would be a good time to clarify that or we can draw our conclusions about what that says about the agenda behind your defence of such racist language.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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  • #884
    Hande hoche!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,949 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122353083#Comment_122353083

    Trump's chances are quite high at the moment, considering his weaknesses. There is considerable amount of time to go.

    Complicating factors are whether the Democrats change their ticket. Also Trump has yet to announce his Vice president pick.



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  • #886
    Discodog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,031 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-poisoning-blood-remarks-never-knew-hitler-said-rcna130958

    They both said it & they both meant it.



  • #887
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,621 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122353655#Comment_122353655

    Exactly, there's a thousand different ways you can word a speech railing about illegal immigration without ever using inflammatory drivel like "poisoning the blood".

    When you use it like that, it is for reasons of racism.

    When you use the language of neo nazis and white supremacists, that is who you are appealing to, and you know it.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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  • #889
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,621 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    The defences of Trump getting more ridiculous now. Ignoring blatantly racist comments from Trump in 2023 in favour of something the Democrats did in the 19th century. And that the Democrats in recent memory had an African-American president… But sure, let's skip over post war US history and recent politics and keep voting along Civil War lines.

    Desperate desperate stuff.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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  • #891
    ronjo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,999 ✭✭✭ronjo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122353708#Comment_122353708

    History is of course very important but to use something from over 100 years ago to whatabout something 1 year ago seems pretty weird.



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  • #893
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,621 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122353723#Comment_122353723

    Pretty desperate attempt to "memory hole" everything the Democrats have done since in terms of civil rights, the New Deal, the Civil Rights Act, the election of Obama… meanwhile we have the Republican candidate Trump ranting about illegal immigrants poisoning the blood of the nation. But sure, to decide how to vote, let's dig out a history book on the Civil War and Reconstruction from the bookshelves.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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  • #896
    silverharp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,853 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122353538#Comment_122353538

    no, not playing laundry list, "fine people" needs to be agreed upon first and did Biden run on this hoax in 2020, its obvious to people outside the Dem bubble that it was a hoax, so do you believe that hoax still that Trump called white supremacists fine people?

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • #897
    Overheal
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122353355#Comment_122353355

    So private citizen Joe Biden ran this hoax in 2017, when Trump made those remarks and everyone understood exactly what he said to be giving cover to his white supremacist, Neo Nazi right?

    You are really down a rabbit hole there.



  • #898
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122353417#Comment_122353417

    oh okay,

    Circle where the very fine people are please:

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  • #899
    eightieschewbaccy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,974 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122353672#Comment_122353672

    And this entire point is idiotic. The trajectory of both parties has drastically altered since the mid 20th century. So you have to jump back around 80 years before you find a trace of that past. They're both radically different as parties. Hence the fact that the GOP tends to be far more comfortable with their members being openly racist. Happy with Trump pushing lines about blood lines being poisoned. The GOP of thirty or forty years ago would likely be horrified by what the party has become.

    Also slave ownership wasn't specific to any party.

    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/more-than-100-us-political-leaders-have-ancestors-who-were-slaveholders-2023-06-27/

    Fyi, the Democrats did not found the KKK btw. Not every stupid tweet or meme that you see is true.



  • #900
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122354047#Comment_122354047

    that post got nuked for the nonsense it was.



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  • #901
    Stanley 1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 607 ✭✭✭Stanley 1


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122353743#Comment_122353743

    Are you kidding, Trump came under the huge influence of a rack rent racist landlord father whose roots were German, they would not rent property to black people.

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