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Soldier beats a woman unconscious, gets a great reference from his CO. Jailed after appeal

  • 20-06-2024 06:17PM
    #1
    griffin100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,073 ✭✭✭griffin100


    https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2024/0620/1455752-soldier-assault/

    I'm not usually a hang em high type of poster but this case has resonated with me. He beat this young woman unconscious and broke her nose apparently because he was asked to stop shouting homophobic abuse in the street. He boasted about it to friends on social media. She ended up suffering greatly and yet he essentially gets away with it. Sure he has probation but that's not a big deal. He gets to keep his army role (he's a 'exemplary, courteous, professional and disciplined soldier' according to his superior officer who seemed happy to give him reference) because the judge didn't impose jail time. He's given credit for pleading guilty at the last minute to avoid a trial, yet he tried to blame the incident on her until he got caught out with the CCTV evidence. He's a scumbag plain and simple and should be in jail, first offence or not, guilty plea or not. His Commanding Officer also has questions to answer about giving him a character reference. Are the army that desperate to retain personnel that they want to keep him enlisted? Surely the DPP will appeal the leniency of this sentence.

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  • #2
    CorneliusBrown
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91 ✭✭CorneliusBrown


    I never understand why they allow character references at court. It’s shameful.



  • #3
    forumdedum
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,592 ✭✭✭forumdedum


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058356685/soldier-beats-a-woman-unconscious-gets-a-great-reference-from-his-commanding-officer-avoids-jail

    I heard this on radio. I know a barrister who may be becoming a judge at some point. This barrister is not stable. I'm not surprised.



  • #4
    Leg End Reject
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    It's a fcuking farce and shame on the judge and his superior officer.

    Shouting homophobic abuse and a violent assault on a woman, but he's a courteous and professional soldier? No, he's a scumbag.

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  • #5
    silliussoddius
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,799 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    Was the judge of his tits or who is the scum bag related to?



  • #6
    fergiesfolly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭fergiesfolly


    Poor woman. Assaulted in the street and mugged in court. Can she or the DPP appeal the sentence?

    And he stays in the army. I know they're having a hard time recruiting at the moment, but are they so hard up that this scrote gets to keep his career and possibly be promoted up the ranks? If I was a parent of a possible recruit, I'd be warning them off the army , especially if they're female.



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  • #7
    This is it
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    Absolute scum. I really hope it's appealed.



  • #8
    SteM
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    Not only the sentence, but some of the comments from the Judge in summing up were just bizarre.



  • #9
    blackbox
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,151 ✭✭✭blackbox


    Unless someone has evidence to the contrary, everything his commanding officer said may have been true.

    However, this is no reason for such a lenient sentence.

    Also, I cannot understand how the army could continue to employ someone who sullies the reputation of the entire force.



  • #10
    This is it
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122284404#Comment_122284404

    Yep. I noticed the judge credited him with pleading guilty... What actually happened was he tried to blame the victim but was confronted with CCTV evidence. He had little choice but to plead guilty.



  • #11
    Leg End Reject
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    Not wanting to ruin his career by imposing a custodial sentence?

    What about the victim who lost her job in the aftermath? What about her PTSD?

    I hope the DPP appeals the leniency, it beggars belief.

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  • #12
    LambshankRedemption
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,985 ✭✭✭✭LambshankRedemption


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122284424#Comment_122284424

    Do we know which judge it was?

    I can probably guess though…



  • #13
    Geuze
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,436 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    I presume that the conviction will lead to a response by his employer?



  • #14
    Baba Yaga
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 932 ✭✭✭Baba Yaga


    shes 100% right,no justice…we've sh1t tons of laws but no justice,at the very least that fcuker should be court martialed…

    yo! donnie vonredactedpants,vlad putin,benji netanyahu,vic orban..you sirs are the skidmarks on the jocks of humanity!!!



  • #15
    silliussoddius
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,799 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122284424#Comment_122284424

    Yeah we can't ruin his career in that group of people who are defending the entire country.



  • #16
    Leg End Reject
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 21,448 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122284434#Comment_122284434

    Tom O'Donnell.

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  • #17
    Leg End Reject
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122284446#Comment_122284446

    He'd be a great lad representing the country on a peace keeping mission. 🙄🙄

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  • #18
    silliussoddius
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122284454#Comment_122284454

    Or maybe a cross country initiative with Iran or Afghanistan.



  • #19
    LambshankRedemption
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122284445#Comment_122284445

    Conduct unbecoming an officer? People have lost their commission for less than this.

    This wasn't a scrap with some mouthy scrote outside a pub.



  • #20
    Leg End Reject
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122284465#Comment_122284465

    And tell them he's gay, let him see how unpleasant homophobia is.

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  • #21
    CatLick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55 ✭✭CatLick


    This is shameful. To punch this woman so many times though she was no threat and only get a suspended sentence. So wrong. Suspended sentences should be withdrawn as a judge's option.



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  • #22
    lightpipe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32 ✭lightpipe


    Absolute scumbag & a disgrace to the army. How can a vicious woman beater continue to be a soldier. His photos & adress are published, he'll need all of his soldiering skills to stay alive in Limerick.



  • #23
    buried
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    This is absolutely sickening. What the f**k is this place coming to.

    Bullet The Blue Shirts



  • #24
    Daisy78
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    So it’s now not enough to be caught on camera committing a heinous crime. All you need is your employer to show up in court, tell everyone that your a grand lad and your out the gap. Appalling.



  • #25
    Leg End Reject
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    The attack only stopped because another man intervened, he could have killed her.

    "As I lay in the foetal position, and losing consciousness, he continued his relentless beating. My last conscious thought was 'he’s not stopping, I’m going to die."

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  • #26
    gigantic09
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    The victims life and carrear is in ruins but the judge is reluctant to impose a sentence that might have similar repercussions for the perpetrator.Makes absolutely no sense .



  • #27
    Rows Grower
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    Hours after the attack Crotty boasted to friends on Snapchat "Two to put her down and two to put her out".

    He later claimed he could remember nothing when being questioned by Gardai until shown the CCTV evidence and then in court the judge had the audacity to ask the victim if she knew the significance of his guilty plea?

    There's something very rotten with this case and not only does the DPP need to appeal it the judge has serious questions to answer.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



  • #28
    alias no.9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,418 ✭✭✭alias no.9


    I can only hope the victim is getting the support she needs to get on with her life and that the DPP is planning to appeal the leniency of the sentence. Perhaps the Defence Forces could consider disciplinary action too, against both the convict and his commanding officer for bringing the force into disrepute.



  • #29
    DeadHand
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122284496#Comment_122284496

    The army, through his commanding officer, acted in his defense: to mitigate his sentence. The same army seem happy to keep this person in its employ.

    It's not enough to say Crotty is a disgrace to the army; the army itself is a disgrace.



  • #30
    This is it
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    I presume there's nothing the general public can do to prompt a review by the DPP?



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  • #31
    buried
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    Clear from this action that the army is at war with the very people it is sworn to protect. Good to know.

    Bullet The Blue Shirts



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