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Dangerous Dogs Owners

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,735 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Another attack, and this one fairly local to me.

    Rottweiler on a lead, but still attacked someone. Proves that they need to be muzzled properly too.

    https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/man-rushed-to-hospital-after-being-attacked-by-dog-on-restricted-breed-list-as-gardai-launch-investigation/a167987903.html



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,015 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    A Pit Bull not under control ie. not on a leash and a muzzle near children?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,563 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Always have something in the back of the jeep, there is a wheelbrace, a powerbar( extra long bar for using with a socket set) a hedge cutters ( manual one) , a couple of heavy wrenches as well.

    These dogs are always minding there own business until they attack someone. XL bullies snd pitbulls should be banned. Rottweiler, Alsatians and other large dogs should be muzzled and on lead in public places. If not zero tolerance. What that zero tolerance is the government should decide.

    Neighbour has huskie/collie crosses, vicious ba****ds, they were constantly on the road. He had drums on them to prevent them jumping the wall but they were still getting out. The dog warden called but is powerless to do anything about them. He has been warned about them coming out again by a couple of neighbours. They kept three of them from a litter of pups. They have developed pack tendancies,it got to the stage where people were afraid to walk on the road, I used to take a stick going for a walk. My daughter was nearly attacked by them.and could not get past them.

    So I would have no problem with culling dangerous dogs. The reality is we will not be allowed to. However we need stiff legislation that totally bans certain breeds, that put stiff penalties in place for other breeds that are in public places that should be muzzled and on a lead.

    As well any dogs that are vicious should be muzzled and on a lead no matter there size.

    Post edited by Bass Reeves on

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,074 ✭✭✭growleaves


    Would you let someone own a tiger?

    Some of these dogs are simply beasts.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,735 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    My fear is that there won't be any serious dog attacks in the coming weeks, and it'll go off the agenda and Gov will forget about it.

    Let's be honest, Govs react to the public sentiment. If that woman hadn't have died in Limerick, there'd be no talk of culling dangerous dogs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,490 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


    Your fear is that there won't be any serious dog attacks?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,810 ✭✭✭✭volchitsa


    But not actually attacking someone then. I'm all for taking measures to reduce dog attacks. I'm not against banning certain breeds, if it seems to be an effective measure.

    I'm just concerned that legalising violent and bloody attacks by random passers-by on dogs when there is no sign of the dog itself attacking anyone would simply traumatise anyone nearby.

    Especially as you can be sure that violent men would jump at a pretext to use violence just for the hell of it. And there are probably more violent men around than dangerously aggressive dogs.

    "If a woman cannot stand in a public space and say, without fear of consequences, that men cannot be women, then women have no rights at all." Helen Joyce



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,735 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,987 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    He/she’s right . People getting mauled or killed by dangerous dogs will be news for a few days then a new story will take over . The fact that the Irish government has no list of banned dogs is a criminal derogation of duty . Until an absolute horrendous incident happens they won’t do Fcuking anything .



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,089 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    I was in my local shop and outside is a young girl with a fully grown Dobermann on a lead with no muzzle.

    You don't realise how big these dogs are when you're just a few steps away from them. I have to say it's very intimidating.

    It's just so irresponsible isnt to have a dog like this with no muzzle.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭tohaltuwi


    One thing I really feel is very silly when dangerous dogs are mentioned;

    These docile creatures tend to studiously ignore you, as I found trying to get into my hotel room in the lovely Radisson Belgrade. Next door had one who tended to stand right outside my door, and if I had nothing to carry I would step over him, but if o were dragging luggage I’d have to negotiate movement of his behalf. He certainly was in no mind to attack me as I regularly encountered him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,015 ✭✭✭saabsaab




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,563 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Bulldogs are very docile totally different to pitbull terriers and XL bullies

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,383 ✭✭✭✭event


    Brilliant. I've actually got a collection of slash hooks and chainsaws at some and nothing to do with them. I'll start taking them on walks with me and keep an eye out for the dogs in question.

    Have you every seen Mad Max or The Purge? I reckon you'd like them



  • Posts: 7,681 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I've the same near me with 2 Spanish water dogs. Keep getting out on the road and growling at walkers to the point people have stopped walking that road. Came down my place 1km away and killed some chickens.

    More recently I'd sheep in lamb in my field.

    Owners saying it's not my dogs and dog wardens powerless to do anything despite photos of dogs with a dead chicken and CCTV of them on my land. Last time the warden was with me I told him to pass a message on that the next time they were on my land they would be shot.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,735 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    I've seen a photo of the bite to the runner in Donegal from the Rottweiler.

    I'll not post it here for now, in case those of a squeamish nature are shocked.

    Big chunk of flesh out of his thigh.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,987 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    When I lived in England I stayed with a family whose son had a Rottweiler . And even though he didn’t live there I crapped myself when it was there. Huge animals that can’t be controlled if they attacked . And yes he was a drug dealer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,015 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    Had a friend who owner a Rottweiler. He growled at me one day and I didn't go near him after that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,735 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Infant child in UK dies after being bitten in the head by a dog (non dangerous breed).

    Just goes to show that technically you could say every dog is dangerous to have around, especially around kids.

    I can't for the life of me understand how any new parent would have a dog around their new born. Why risk it?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,053 ✭✭✭Escapees


    Why risk it indeed, especially with a dog breed that likely is one which, while technically not on the dangerous dogs list, would be regarded by many as dangerous. E.g. an Alsatian.

    Note that there are only 5 breeds of dogs on the list of banned dangerous dog breeds in the UK, so just coz a dog isn't one of these breeds doesn't necessarily mean it's not recognised as being potentially dangerous etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,563 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    IIt's Immaterial the dog or size. Even something like a Jack Russell or even the smaller breeds should not be left alone with a baby especially the first few weeks after it comes into the house. I go so far to say the same about a cat. In the US 5+ years ago a pet rat killed a ten year okd boy, and another killed a baby

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,383 ✭✭✭✭event


    That rats name was Splinter though. Should have known



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭ToweringPerformance


    It will take the death of a child or family member of a politician for anything to be done.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭ToweringPerformance


    Driving up Wyattville Road past Loughlinstown earlier on in the week and young lad couldn't have been more than 14-15 years of age with a massive bull terrier breed dog had no muzzle and it was walking him not the other way around. I'm 6ft 2", 15 stone and even someone of my size would have difficulty with defending myself if that animal took a dislike to me.

    Funny thing is a Garda car had just past the dog and kid must have been 30 seconds before me i could see the car up the road ahead and just drove by them on towards Cherrywood.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,735 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Tbh, I don't think you'd be able to defend yourself.

    There would be no stopping it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,987 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    True , an infant should never be left alone with an animal of any kind .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,715 ✭✭✭D3V!L


    Whats a "massive bull terrier breed dog" ?, just like "pit bulls", there is no dog called a "bull terrier" and I find most people couldn't identify one without first googling it.

    English Bull Terriers are far from massive, even an unneutered male doesn't get bigger than a small average dog breed. American Pit Bull Terriers look nothing like an English Bull Terrier. Completely different breed, shape and size and temperament.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,563 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,507 ✭✭✭extra-ordinary_


    Guy passed the house there earlier, with his pitbull or whatever it was, not only not wearing a muzzle, but not even on a lead.

    Where's the deterrence?



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