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Near Misses Volume 2 (So close you can feel it)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,131 ✭✭✭De Bhál


    If I had to live in the same estate as him I wouldn't be reporting it to be honest. You've highlighted to him face to face how he was wrong and you'd hope if he was anyway decent he'd wait behind the next time this happens.

    "You know I'm actually a cop"…. not someone I'd want dealings with really. Did he say "cop"?

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,233 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Do you know people who say "do you know, I am a cop", are more often than not, not actually cops. If it was me I'd have taken the reg and report to the local Super that someone is impersonating Gardai in order to be intimidating. What he is, but didn't say, is a bit of a Walter Mitty type but at least Walter kept his fantasies in his head.

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 54,190 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    i've had that too myself. a woman who nearly ran me off my bike on st martin's row in chapelizod and objected when i slapped the side of her car to let her know i was there. there was some exchange about calling the gardai, and she said 'i am a garda'.

    she floored it when i said 'right then, i'll call the gardai and also tell them you were impersonating a garda'.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,827 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    I've yet to meet a Garda who would refer to themselves as a "cop"

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,451 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    There is a specific offence of dangerous overtaking of a cyclist, and another general offence of overtaking causing inconvenience. Neither specify a distance.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,429 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    Vast majority of my running is on lanes and I find if I think someone is going to cut it close despite enough room or skim at speed I find holding my arm out to the side(not like I'm trying to flag a taxi, just a 45 degree angle) usually gives them pause for thought and they usually make eye contact and see me as a person again.

    Although I may reconsider if I ever get my hand broken at some point!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,758 ✭✭✭Wildly Boaring


    Yeah I also do a lot of running on the road. Same experience, the behaviour changes completely when you male eye contact.

    I'm also a demon for going a car a rap on the side if it's too close, i'd not advise that. Have had 2 men stop to explain how shite they are at driving.

    As with cycling I find that "taking the lane helps". I run a couple of feet out from the ditch. Not in the middle of the lane but enough to stop a genius from squeezing past me.

    I get more space on the bike than running generally. Running and walking are a right eye opener for phone and touchscreen use.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭CR 7


    That's exactly what I was thinking as he said it, any "cops" I know don't go around using it as a get out of jail card. Also, I was already skeptical of his claim of doing "loads of cycling" without the physique to match...

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 925 ✭✭✭sy_flembeck


    Speaking as someone relatively recently retired from the Guards, we'd have collectively called each other many things. 'Cop' was never one of those things. If that was the wording he used then he's not what he says he is

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,101 ✭✭✭standardg60


    A dashed cycle lane is a shared lane, so realistically it may as well not be there in terms of a safe overtake. The point of them is to emphasise the right of a cyclist to be there in the first place, but unfortunately some drivers think once they overtake without encroaching across the lines it is a safe overtake.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,758 ✭✭✭Wildly Boaring


    In fairness to the solicitor they're answering very professionally and essentially saying yo all the dopes that thru broke the law.

    The excuses are hilarious. Lanes splitting, roads too narrow, roads narrowing, other cars appearing out of nowhere.... Nice to get a view into how these numpties think. Never their fault. Never reading the road.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,101 ✭✭✭standardg60


    That is hilarious 😁

    'it was Father's Day and I was with my 15 yr old daughter' was my favourite.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭Unrealistic


    My jaw dropped at the driver whose excuse was that the cyclist moved closer to him while he was overtaking because the cycle lane ended and that if the cyclist had stayed in his lane (the one that had ended) he wouldn't have close passed him. It think it involved a traffic island forcing him to stay left too, so to obvious infrastructure changes coming up that should have prompted him to delay his overtake but he missed them both.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 509 ✭✭✭elchupanebrey


    I've had drivers abort overtakes at the last second in the past when their other 2 choices were hit me or hit the kerb on an island. Thankful abort was the option they chose. Probably plenty of drivers out there that go for the hit the cyclist or force them into the opposite kerb option

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 54,190 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    that happened me several times on strand road - drivers doing a rushed overtake, to find they were heading straight for a traffic island. twice here; i see they've removed the islands (if you choose the 2018 imagery, they're there) and replaced them with something less likely to damage a car:

    https://www.google.com/maps/@53.3253872,-6.2071464,3a,75y,176.64h,71.03t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1shUR7BP5m3txIYy7q35x3XA!2e0!5s20230601T000000!7i16384!8i8192?coh=205409&entry=ttu

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭Unrealistic


    There's a very scary but very satisfying video around somewhere of a driver trying to overtake a cyclist as they approach a traffic island on the outskirts of Galway. Thankfully they didn't try to take out the cyclist and instead hit the island at speed and blew out their driver side front tyre.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,721 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    No surprise at all at that attitude. It's the reason why you don't cycle a foot out from the kerb, why cycling two abreast is good practice and why I don't use a certain type of cycle lane (i.e. the ones that require you to yield at every turning point/ side road or the ones that spit you out onto the road without any regard to fitness for purpose) - a lot of drivers (as anyone who cycles regularly will appreciate) simply have that attitude of cyclists being second class road users and cars having right of way. If you give an inch, if you cycle defensively, they will pretend they don't see you and expect you to give way - essentially bully you off the road.

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,233 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Holy crap, after 2+ years of barely anything of note on local roads, 10 close passes in one commute. 3 were into head on into oncoming traffic were I had to haul on my brakes and so did the approaching car. Most of the rest done it on bends and 5 of them I could touch as they went by. Must be something in the air. I would normally blame tourists but most were local reg plates.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,780 ✭✭✭hans aus dtschl


    I saw a load of mad driving the last day or two too. Yesterday a woman in traffic tried to aggressively cut me off at the kerb and when I passed on the driver-side she shouted at me to "be careful" :D

    I used to work in nightclubs a lot and we would always say you'd see the weirdest of behaviour around a full moon. Full moon is today apparently. The superstition continues!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 969 ✭✭✭Boardnashea


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,510 ✭✭✭VonLuck


    I had a minor encounter with a pedestrian this morning. I was cycling along a shared path and there was a couple walking single file in the same direction as I was cycling. As I was about to overtake, the woman stepped out in front of me. I was going slow enough that it wasn't a problem so I politely rang my bell to warn her. She scrambled to get to one side and apologised, but then the man said "F*ckin hell! How much space do you need!".

    It's a path that may be wide enough for 3 people walking abreast, but when two people are walking side by side you can't pass safely on a bike. I guess when you're a cyclist you're just always in the wrong!

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 54,190 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    one reason i don't use a bell. by the reports i've heard it's 50/50 whether it'll be viewed as polite, or passive-aggressive.

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,233 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Bells are a trigger for some people, I don't use one as I have had some nasty reactions in the past. People seem to take it in the same vein as someone blasting their horn to get you out of the way. Personally, I freewheel and slow on approach, usually enough and a nice wave and thank you as I pass. If they don't hear the freewheel, I'll say excuse me and then thank you but I'm sure some will take this the wrong way.

    The bell thing is probably not helped by the way some, not all, use it. Walking through work and a cyclist came through blasting her bell but not even remotely slowing as she went through a shared space. She wasn't trying to be an ass but she was. She just kept going, smiling to herself as if her behaviour was acceptable, oblivious to what an asshat she was.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,721 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    As per above posts, we just don't have a cycle-commuting traditioon in Ireland. Bells are very common in the low countries and Germany from experience, and they are seen for what they are - a way of indicating your presence in shared spaces where another cyclist or pedestrian may not realise you are approaching.

    Whereas here they are seen as the cycling equivalent of the car horn. And we all know what the car horn is used for - basically everything that your driving instructor tells you it's not for… anger, remonstration, bullying.

    So that guy's response probably tells you more about what kind of driver he is and how he views cyclists than anything else.

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,233 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    It should be also noted that there are some people who will react badly no matter what you do.

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 54,190 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    that was purely about shifting blame; an 'i know i'm the one in the wrong, but i'll pick a minor detail to shift blame back on to you' approach.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,721 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    Christ. Some people just shouldn't be allowed outdoors. I'd say she's never admitted to being at fault/ in the wrong for anything. Had you rang a bell you'd have been admonished for being aggressive no doubt.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,510 ✭✭✭VonLuck


    I had a very similar incident a while ago when I didn't have a bell on my bike and someone complained that I should have. I ended up putting one on and then I get this reaction this morning. You just can't win!

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,233 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    I had a guy do this outside work after he pulled a dangerous maneuvre. Me having or not having a bell was irrelevant to the event. I then, thanks to too much time on boards, got to inform him about being adapted for racing and that he was incorrect. It is no different to the people who nearly hit people in the middle of the day but blame no Hi Vis, or at night with good lights but its the lack of Hi Vis is why they nearly killed someone, not them being dangerous.

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 54,190 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    yeah, i mentioned here before about a lad apologising to me a year or two ago, for pulling out in front of me without even looking, and then stopping beside me at the next lights to archly declaim 'when i cycle, i wear a helmet and hi-vis'.

    hi vis is not much use to me when you don't look, pal.

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