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EU Elections 2024 - Results

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,135 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    She's another Deirdre Clune.

    Deirdre Clune was a Cork representative who was an MEP for 10 years. I know her personally, and for me, she was always a likeable person. But her impact in Europe might as well have been nothing.

    You won't hear from Nina Carberry after the fuss has boiled down until an election comes due. I am confident of that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout


    You won't hear of them for 5 years

    I'm so sick of seeing comments like this. What exactly do people expect to hear from their MEPs? The Irish media do not cover the European Parliament. Presumable that's because Irish people don't seem to care about what happens there. It is therefore a bit rich to complain that we don't hear about how they are getting on.

    The only MEPs that we have heard about in the last 5 years were for all the wrong reasons: Wallace & Daly shilling for Assad & Putin and Ming showing up on a video call in his underwear.

    What exactly would people like to hear from their MEPs given that the job description is basically spending years working on typically very dry and technical legislation?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 196 ✭✭Samson1


    Ciaran Mullooly elected, Gildernew out, on Lisa Chambers transfers !!! A great day overall !!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,135 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    They can certainly do a lot better than Ciaran Cuffe, a person who just lied about everything he did.

    The only factual statement that the Green party candidate did there was admit he was a Dubliner.

    He actually claimed in this video that he's lowered our bills. What planet is he living on?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,000 ✭✭✭.Donegal.


    She was the only candidate in the top 10 who didn’t show up to the count centre yesterday as well. A glorified mime artist. She was on my ballot paper and I couldn’t tell you one thing she stands for or wants to do as a MEP. I at least heard all of the other candidates from the big parties speak but the strategy worked for them. It doesn’t inspire me with confidence in her that they had to hide her away.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 689 ✭✭✭Dank Janniels


    The results are in

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,053 ✭✭✭bobster453




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,186 ✭✭✭wazzzledazzle


    Is she that incapable that she was told to avoid the media at all costs, well, knowing a bit about her, I’d say when it comes to politics, let’s say she’d struggle.

    I have no idea how this even came about. She’s a lovely person, but is that where we are at now?

    I could use any amount of analogies for her becoming an MEP and you can be guaranteed there will be very little to no scrutiny on her impact/input over the next 5 years.

    Anyway, not her fault and good look to her.

    But it is baffling



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,759 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    The entire Green Party have spent 4 years foisting the cost of unproven policies onto those that can least afford them.

    And they have been absolutely skewered for it, except in a small number of wealthier areas, where the economic impact is less relevant.

    They should have jettisoned Eamon Ryan when they had the chance, and now they are in an existential crisis because of him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,603 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    Wallace will be getting pensions,,, better than the employees he had that he stole their pensions,, anyone know what td/ MEP pensions he will be drawing?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,975 ✭✭✭beggars_bush


    The green party basically did what they said they would do. It was in their manifesto

    You got to give them credit for that at least



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭Eudaimonia


    it’s amusing how quick people are to jump on the bash FG band wagon without evidence or a plethora of information to back it up. So far we have seen Carbery not turn up to the election count centre and people are jumping to the conclusion that she will therefore be a no show for her entire European career.

    What we have seen is a very high profile candidate who has appeared on Dancing with the Stars and Irelands fittest family leverage all her recognition into a phenomenal turnout to vote for her. That took undoubtedly a huge amount of time and effort behind the scenes pre election and knocking on doors to get that turnout.

    What do we know of her other than that? She is a jockey. So people have jumped on these two main attributes and jumped to the conclusion she will be useless. I hope like her masterful results in getting out the vote she will prove people wrong.

    We still have to see her politics but the same could be said of another celebrity candidate in the Irish Eurovision singer Cynthia ni Mhurchu. Who is to say her results will not be the same as Carbery judging by her enttertainment background and profile?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,520 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    As Willie O Dea said in 2011 it one thing to show someone a hair shirt it different if you make them wear it.

    My.big fault with the Greens us is it's all idealogical. Nuclear accriss Europe would decarbonise cheaper than wind and solar and have less impact on individuals. But tge Greens are anti Nuclear.

    There fascination with rural rail in Ireland and total opposition to roadways. Tge Limerick Cork motorway did not come up in the EU election but ER continual delaying of it is definitely losing votes.

    The reopening of the Foynes railway is a complete waste of money will cost 150 million and will virtually never be used. Similarly to the Linerick Athenry.

    The Green ways are brilliant but are mainly a tourism feature. Look at the way they f@@ked up motor tax tghe last tine they were in.power and the continual impact it has. The obsession with wind energy which means we need to build double tge infrastructure for electricity generation.

    ER proposing daft ideas like car pooling in rural Ireland or the reintroduction of wolves. The constant attacking of farming by fringe elements of the green party. Give it 5 years and we will see the impact of the push to organics in Irish farming. Product and no market.

    There is a reason the Greens got it in the neck

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,603 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    Totally,this wind dream doesn't stand up to scrutiny and will be legacy of the current green term in government,the same as the car tax was before, showing their complete lack of cop on,,, you never hear them mention data centers but cows are bad news.…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭Ardent


    They've probably pocketed enough money from their paymasters in Moscow to see them through. Wallace is retirement age now anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,318 ✭✭✭MFPM


    I suppose the 'evidence' you say is not there re Carbery is in fact there. She has never made any political statements that we've heard, never campaigned on an issue, and during an election campaign participated in no debates. She was chosen because of her profile and it's paid off for FG. She'll be managed in the Parliament by FG and she can probably get away without doing much, it's an easy place to hide if you wish and toe the line which she will. Let's see how it unfolds.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,186 ✭✭✭wazzzledazzle


    Pick the bones out of this.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/video/video/2024/04/06/nina-carberry-i-wanted-to-have-a-say/

    Some standout politics buzzwords, like "i have brothers" "hustle and bustle" "Jockey"

    Several more racing analogies. She almost looks uncomfortable.

    Anyway, i have said in many previous posts, a lovely woman, great jockey & best of luck to her, but not sure what she'll add in Europe to benefit Ireland (She won't be anything like the two treasonous clowns turfed out)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,521 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Why would ditching Ryan help?

    Who in the GP could replace him and has shown more regard for cost impact etc?

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,186 ✭✭✭wazzzledazzle




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,582 ✭✭✭Quitelife


    Bit of a joke a Jockey who never was involved in politics is elected . Afte watching RTÉ programme on horse industry the other night makes it worse .
    Fine Gael always had rich landowners and landlords and now they have the rich horsey crowd as their politicians who haven’t a clue about ordinary peoples lives .



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,161 ✭✭✭zerosquared




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,334 ✭✭✭bloopy


    Nobody seems to have seen her anywhere.

    Does she even exist?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,570 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Both blaming the media.

    Absolutely nothing to do with repeatedly voting no in condemning Russian mass murder.

    Good Riddance, pair of absolute wánkers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭Eudaimonia


    Quick google search brings up independent article which disproves your point.

    In her pitch to party members, Carberry highlighted her values of "honesty, hard work and plain talking" and Fine Gael's principle of equality of opportunity that resonates with her.

    Key priorities she outlined include championing balanced regional development for rural areas, reducing red tape for farmers and businesses, protecting free movement for students, and developing a cross-European apprenticeship scheme.

    You are totally wrong. Stop posting misinformation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,186 ✭✭✭wazzzledazzle


    Yes, i just googled and found the same. Just one thing that stood out below that would give me some doubt about all of it. See can you pick it out from what i pasted.

    In her statement today, Carberry included balance regional development, cutting red tape for farmers and businesses and protecting free movement of students among her top priorities.

    She also said she wants to see the development of a cross-European apprentice scheme that could benefit the sharing of skills and ideas to create more opportunities for young people.

    “Honesty, hard work, and plain talking define my approach. Growing up in a family of Fine Gael supporters, lively debates and radio discussions were part of our daily lives. Fine Gael’s core value of equality of opportunity resonates deeply with me. As a candidate, I embody this principle,” Carberry wrote. 



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,709 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    By the time she figures out how politics works, it will be another election. Europe is not the place to learn the ropes. I'd prefer to see her in the Dail or even council starting off. Strange really.

    Delighted Wallace and Daly are gone. I think we have put some smart and outspoken MEPs in McNamara/Mullooley and Ming will always keep things honest.

    Michael Martin has banished his biggest enemy to Europe in the odious Cowen and the Gardai won't dare try and stop him for drink driving now.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,398 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,138 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    It's funny how the Green Party have been solely blamed in the public imagination for the move to emission based Motor Tax.

    Not only were they not in Government when it was first announced, but they had never been in Government before up until that point. It would be like blaming SF for something the current government announced tomorrow. 

    The change to basing Motor Tax on emissions was actually announced in Budget 2007, which was delivered in 2006. 

    Here's the quote from Finance Minister Brian Cowan's (FF) speech at the time: (https://assets.gov.ie/194593/082b8141-377f-4d02-94e6-54b38f74c614.pdf)

    At the same time, my colleague, the Minister for the Environment, Heritage and Local Government will consult on his proposals for a complementary rebalancing of annual motor tax. This would provide a further incentive through the motor tax system for the motoring public to drive cleaner cars and would impose some additional cost in respect of cars with higher carbon dioxide emission levels. This would apply to vehicles registered on or after 1 January 2008. Underpinning both of these initiatives will be a new mandatory labelling system for cars based on CO2 emission levels. Linking consumption taxes to environmental goals requires us to discuss the details of such moves thoroughly with stakeholders if we want to get it right. 

    The government at the time was made up of Fianna Fail, the Progressive Democrats and 5 independents. The Minister for the Environment mentioned above was Martin Cullen from Fianna Fail. The Green Party were in opposition, and did not contribute to the budget. As mentioned, they had not ever been in Government at all up until this point. 

    Here's an interesting article from October 2007. By this time the GP were in Government with FF and the PDs, but the Motor Tax reforms were delayed and were not due to be implemented in January 2008 as promised. In the article, Fine Gael's Phil Hogan is lambasting the Government at the time, especially The Green Party, for not introducing the changes. 

    "One would have assumed that the entry of the Green Party into Government would have expedited the introduction of this environmental reform but instead I find that the measure has been pushed off until the middle of next year."

    He continued: "If the Greens have as much influence as they claim, it has to be asked how this important environmental measure has been allowed to slip onto the back burner. Actions speak louder than words."

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/motor-tax-reform-to-be-delayed-1.813158

    The truth is that all political parties in the Dáil at the time supported the change to emissions based motor tax, not just the GP, and the GP were minority partners in Government when it was finally implemented, but it was FF and the PDs that actually introduced the idea.

    And the truth is that all current major parties support wind and solar. There's simply no public appetite for nuclear power in this country. Personally, I'd like to see nuclear used - we import enough energy generated by it anyway. But can you imagine actually trying to plan and build a nuclear power station in this country? Look at the hassles we have even getting a 5G mast in some areas. People just don't want it near them - and near in terms of nuclear means within hundred of kilometres.

    The Green's main issue is that the "green agenda" has actually been co-opted by all mainstream parties (and I include SF in that). It's just handy that they're a scapegoat when something turns out to be unpopular.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,186 ✭✭✭wazzzledazzle


    Councils are full of shitehawks. She'd be safer in the Dail.

    We have a few decent MEP's to represent us in fairness



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,340 ✭✭✭davidk1394


    Any person who can píss off John Gibbons would get my vote. His a total and utterly mouth piece. When someone calls him out on twitter he blocks them.



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