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EU Elections 2024 - Results

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,477 ✭✭✭Field east


    she did not have to court journalists -they tried to court her and failed

    . To excuse the pun - All is fair in love and war as they say

    Whenever I saw her on telly be it on Primetime, EU Parliment or whoever she was no shrinking violet/ she was WELL able to stand up for herself.
    If she genuinely and really believed in her causes then why was she afraid of using all platforms available to her.??????



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,949 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    She chose to run Russian propaganda so that's on her rather than the media being at fault...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,739 ✭✭✭20silkcut


    she should have known that being so Pro Russia would be toxic to an Irish electorate. Yes the online algorithm may distort opinions but outright naked imperial aggression of any kind does not sit well with the vast majority of Irish people.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭Eudaimonia


    Wallace is toast. He’s not going to our score Ni Mhurchu in Susan Doyle’s SD, John Mullins FG, and Grace OSullivan’s Green distributions. I can see him being some way behind at the end. That is if Funchion doesn’t succumb to him. Ni Mhurchu is safe with the mainstream vote.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,320 ✭✭✭MFPM




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,528 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Contradictory nonsense.

    If she didnt court then why is she whinging about them not being interested. Cant keep her lies straight.

    She didnt just not court them.

    She robustly blocked them.

    Then turns around and lies about it complaining they werent interested in her! Only person being petulant is Daly. Not merely disingenuous just barefaced lies lies lies. Just like the lies she tells for Moscow.

    Even then she was regularly on RTE

    Her lies are being exposed now for all ro see. She lies for Russia. She lies about her lies. And you try to defend her but nobody can come up with a credible coherent defence of the morally and intellectually bankrupt Daly. Says it all.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,949 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Just one of many examples, claiming that NATO are in some way responsible. Implying that Ukraine are under a nefarious Western influence etc

    https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/2022/05/06/clare-daly-says-ukrainian-establishment-became-puppets-of-another-power-1.4871498/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,320 ✭✭✭MFPM


    They courted her when it suits their story, ' Hi Clare, we're writing a story to sh!t on you, can we have a comment'? Very few politicians respond to those journos. If on the other hand a journalist reports fairly and accurately on your work that's different.

    Daly is more than capable of standing up for herself but at a certain stage why bother if the journalists are simply seeking to damage you?

    Very few Shinners deal with John Lee in the Mail for example because he makes no secret of simply trying to damage them, Philip Ryan in the Indo would be further example.

    There's no evidence she was afraid, quite the opposite. Sometimes there's no point, the experience of Corbyn has salutary lessons she perhaps learned.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,320 ✭✭✭MFPM


    When you can make a coherent argument, let me know. That's incoherent gibberish.

    She didn't court them and she wasn't 'whinging' she was making a relevant and fair critique. Your bias is clouding your objectivity.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,136 ✭✭✭z80CPU
    Darth Randomer


    ^^^ Great last point @MFPM



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  • Posts: 45,738 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Daly and Wallace. Pair of spoofers tbh.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,076 ✭✭✭✭fits


    I don’t think anyone is home and dry beyond kelleher in ireland sout. There are a lot of transfers to go around yet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,528 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    So no defence from you then as expected of her lies and petulant whinging. Says it all. Multiple posters on the thread have coherently exposed her lies including me. Multiple journalists have publicly documented her conduct towards them. Objectively she hasnt a leg to stand on.

    And you have nothing in response because no argument can be mounted in defence of her lies.

    She lashed out petulantly with whinging lies as she had lost her seat in an examplar of democracy in action. She can look forward to a cushy pension.

    Unlike the regimes she lies and shills for shamelessly where an open window or camp would await.

    All she has is lies.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,361 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Non internet connected machines is one layer of defence, but it's a long way off the only defence you need. The fundamental question remains - how do you ensure that any system will take the vote entered as the vote recorded and the vote counted? If you get to control the software, you can do whatever the hell you like with the results, far more sweeping changes that would arise from any human error. You can screen as well as you like beforehand, that doesn't tell you what happens on election day, or when a particular key sequence is pressed, or when a particular device is plugged in or maybe just in the vicinity of the machine.

    So what if we're on day 6. What's the problem? Is it just the gnat-like attention span of GenX that is offended? Democracy is both precious and fragile, and we need to be very, very careful about making it vulnerable to outside attacks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,161 ✭✭✭zerosquared




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 516 ✭✭✭StoutPost


    Until Independent Ireland ran Ciaran Mullooly I can honestly said I would not have been able to vote for anyone on the MNW ballot. I would have gone and spoiled my ballot. I believe in voting so until that point it was an unhappy thought when it would come to the front of my mind. The next general election, as things stand, in Galway West I have no one to vote for.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,949 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    She opposed sanctions, wouldn't support a condemnation of the Russian invasion and has frequently blamed the West for the continuing war. Meanwhile the reality is, if the West didn't support Ukraine, Russia would simply complete the invasion and engage in further genocide. Russia has made it clear that they intend on completing the invasion, there was never a question of peace. So either Clare is incredibly dumb or her position effectively amounts to leaving Russia off.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,339 ✭✭✭wassie


    If on the other hand a journalist reports fairly and accurately on your work that's different.

    Naomi O’Leary's piece from 2 years ago was accurate and damning enough. This is why there is such vile regard for these two useful idiots.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,356 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Surely in 2024 there is a better way of counting the votes rather than the prehistoric system we have going on here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,106 ✭✭✭Christy42


    What is the flaw with the current system? Or why would a new system be better?

    And if you say speed explain why this would be a benefit please because no one does.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,339 ✭✭✭wassie




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,320 ✭✭✭MFPM


    You seem to have quite an uncritical approach to journalists - if they say/write it then it must be true. You think journalists don't have agendas or biases?

    Daly and any other politician is absolutely entitled to ignore any journalist if they wish particularly if said journalist has demonstrated a nefarious attitude to them. It's quite common in politics, I illustrated some examples in an earlier post.

    Daly had lost her seat, it's tough for any politician, whether you agree or not she has been subjected to a persistent negative media campaign on some issues and they completely ignored all her other work, if that's not an agenda I don't know what is and in that context she was entitled to do what she did yesterday evening.

    We are not going to agree on this, you're blinded by hate.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭Eudaimonia


    Is that the Punch or Doyle batch? If it’s Doyle I still think No Mhurchu will be safe after FG and Greens distribution to come. Well safe.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 114 ✭✭Scar001




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,339 ✭✭✭wassie


    There's no agenda. She is a victim of her own making. I've even given you evidence linked in the article above - read it and try to refute it.

    It wasn't an opinion piece either, it was solid investigative journalism.

    Where's your evidence to the contrary?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,980 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Looks to me like Wallace's race is run. Surely he didn't get enough from Punch there to give him a chance against Cynthia?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,528 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    You seem to have a quite uncritical attitude to Daly. Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil just like her.

    Any objective observer can see who acted petulantly in the video.

    Any politician can ignore journalists but then for her to turn around and whinging about them not being interested in her is a blatant lie - and demonstrably false as attested by multiple journalists.

    See you cant defend her without contradicting yourself same as her.

    Daly's problem is she has been treated fairly and accurately by the Irish media. The reprehensible positions she has taken up are on her and have been rightly called by them as they are entitled to do. Thats why it comes out negative. Entirely proper for them to ask tough questions about her hypocrisy and lies in defence of dictators. The nefarious conduct is hers and hers alone.

    Anything else would be dishonest reporting.

    And thats why she lost her seat.

    Only herself to blame for her morally bankrupt hypocrisy that rightly cost her her seat. Democracy in action.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,356 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Grand so sure leave it the way it is.

    Lets never try to find a more modern way of doing things.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,088 ✭✭✭Clo-Clo


    I find it funny the latest craze to go after journalist who have spent years in School/college/uni and then work up via the system, accusing them of bias and all sort of nonsense

    Then normally point to some gobs**t on the internet, who can hardly pull together a cohernet paragraph, as someone who tells the truth and isn't biased 😂

    Daly can ignore the media, let her off, she has only one person to blame



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭Ardent


    I have my fingers and toes crossed hoping that Wallace will lose out. It's hard to believe there are gobshytes in Wexford still voting for this shyster.



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