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EU Elections 2024 - Results

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  • #572
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 44,263 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122245848#Comment_122245848

    Can you point us towards an existing evoting system that is secure, transparent, reliable, scalable and able to follow the logic of the PR/STV followed here?
    Do they provide a verifiable audit trail should it be required?
    Furthermore, given your claim that the old evoting machines weren't hackable, could they have been tampered with before they were wheeled into the polling station?

    Given the ongoing storage and the maintenance costs, along with the software licence costs, exactly how much will we save (rather than just claiming a vague "millions and millions")?

    The only reason I ask is because generally those who shout for the reintroduction of evoting machines haven't a clue about these machines and the reasons why we're not using them !

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  • #573
    josip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,010 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Moving on…

    image.png

    I got the O'Riordain leapfrog of Cuffe wrong, but it will probably happen in the next count. I suspect that Clare Daly will leapfrog both. And I think Niall Boylan will stay ahead of all until O'Riordain gets him at the death.



  • #574
    L1011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,265 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Cuffe will be very happy to be still ahead after that. Its very questionable as to which of them will get more from Smith

    Hard left voters going for the Greens after 4 years in Government - well, they did to an extent in the locals; they also don't like Labour either. And Daly still has support even if its been cut away by five years of Putinbottery



  • #575
    brick tamland
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,603 ✭✭✭brick tamland


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122246145#Comment_122246145

    Might be the beginning of the end for NB here



  • #576
    VinLieger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,328 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122246145#Comment_122246145

    Interesting wide spread between Smith, Labour and the Greens, doesnt look good for Daly at all if she expected to get a lot out of Smiths transfers based on this.



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  • #577
    timmyntc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,728 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122246145#Comment_122246145

    Aodhan getting ahead of Cuffe is likely best case for Boylan

    Cuffes vote is far more likely to go to FG/FF than LAB compared to the reverse.

    Still unlikely to make it though, all comes down to how much of Daly's anti-everything vote goes to Niall Boylan



  • #578
    JVince
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,459 ✭✭✭JVince


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122246098#Comment_122246098

    Ireland is a country of 5.2million. The UK is 68million.

    Making comparisons is ridiculous.



  • #579
    bren2001
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,797 ✭✭✭bren2001


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122246183#Comment_122246183

    Still unlikely to make it though, all comes down to how much of Daly's anti-everything vote goes to Niall Boylan

    Daly could easily finish #4 or #5. Her votes may never transfer. She needs about 50% of Smiths vote tho as I cant see anyone else really transferring to her after Brid.



  • #580
    wazzzledazzle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭wazzzledazzle


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122246185#Comment_122246185

    i was waiting for that response.

    There is no reason whatsoever that Ireland per capita should not have there fair share of top class commentators.

    Gavan Reilly. Zara King. Miriam O'Callaghan

    Is this the best we can do? seriously?



  • #581
    Highlighter75
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 203 ✭✭Highlighter75


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122245940#Comment_122245940

    He still has a healthy lead and the eliminations are reducing drastically.



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  • #582
    Large bottle small glass
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,389 ✭✭✭Large bottle small glass


    I couldn't care less who wins but its compelling viewing. A bit like dot (gps Tracker) watching on ultra multi day cycling events 😀

    Niall Boylan looked comfortable but the left transfer could and probably will kill him



  • #583
    Patser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,460 ✭✭✭Patser


    Only 400 between Cuffe and O'R with Smith to go - and they could go anywhere



  • #584
    Hodors Appletart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,798 ✭✭✭Hodors Appletart


    Andrews could hoover up a few of the Smith/Left xfers after his stance against Israel



  • #585
    Clo-Clo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,088 ✭✭✭Clo-Clo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122245848#Comment_122245848

    The machines got used, they worked, then the numpty squad came in because of fear of "camputers". Led by none other than Joe Higgins.

    The machines ended up getting dumped because of security concerns when the World was a lot safer online.

    The chances of corruption at voting is a lot higher with cards than using online voting.

    Like most things in Ireland, the idiots won the argument

    From the commission report:

    "The Commission can recommend the voting and counting equipment as follows:

    • The voting machine and related hardware components are of good quality and their design, which is based on voting systems that have been reliable in use elsewhere for some years, has also remained stable since their adaptation for use in Ireland. Subject to some minor security and usability enhancements, followed by extended and rigorous testing once they have been so modified, the voting machine and related components can be confidently recommended for use.
    • The embedded software of the voting machine is also of adequate quality, requiring only minor modifications followed by further analysis to confirm its reliability."

    So it required a few software patch's



  • #586
    JVince
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,459 ✭✭✭JVince


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122246196#Comment_122246196

    But its a very valid response. Do you not think you will get a better choice for a position in a population of 68m v 5m? - Though looking at UK politicians, I think UK people would much prefer Irish politicians,

    What you think is good and what someone else thinks is good can be quite different. I find the BBC coverage overbearing and far too "political".

    I find Gavin Reilly to be a very good commentator on politics.



  • #587
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,307 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122245666#Comment_122245666

    So happy!!



  • #588
    wazzzledazzle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭wazzzledazzle


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122246233#Comment_122246233

    Jesus, if you think Gavan Reilly is in anyway useful, let's just leave it at that



  • #589
    magicbastarder
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 54,216 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    so there's ~6k between AOR/CC and NB. if they both close that gap by 2K say with each of the eliminations of smith and daly, that leaves 2k to NB; but once eith AOR or CC are eliminated, i suspect the other will benefit by more than 2k and leapfrog him?



  • #590
    bren2001
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,797 ✭✭✭bren2001


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122246255#Comment_122246255

    Daly will not be eliminated next. AOR/CC will be eliminated next.



  • #591
    Quango Unchained
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 104 ✭✭Quango Unchained


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122246259#Comment_122246259

    I'm not sure about that. I think CD has too much ground to make up. AOR will overtake CC in the next round. Both AOR and CC will move closer to NB but by how much?



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  • #592
    bren2001
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,797 ✭✭✭bren2001


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122246277#Comment_122246277

    I'd expect Daly to mop up 50% of the Smith transfers.

    I don't expect Smith to transfer particularly well to AOR or CC. I am not sure AOR will make up the 400 to overtake CC in the next count.



  • #593
    MFPM
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,814 ✭✭✭MFPM


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122246236#Comment_122246236

    I revert to my previous post!



  • #594
    josip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,010 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Meanwhile South…

    image.png

    Between McNamara, Ni Mhurcu, Wallace and O'Sullivan for those 4th and 5th seats.

    How transfer friendly is McNamara compared to Wallace?



  • #595
    Downlinz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭Downlinz


    In 2019 in the same constituency PBP with almost exactly half the vote transferred 3823 to Daly, 2343 to Boylan, 398 to Labour and 1973 to Cuffe although I suspect that last one might change considering his party is in government now.

    If the transfer proportions hold up it would be enough for Daly to move ahead of Ó Ríordáin.



  • #596
    Genghis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭Genghis


    Gibney did not pick up a huge amount of transfers herself - 89% of her 18396 votes came from first preferences. More impresive, over 90% of Sinead Gibneys vote transferred.

    So a lot of the transfers in that count were Gibney-voters second preference.



  • #597
    Dingaan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 532 ✭✭✭Dingaan


    It's nice to see Rory Hearne of the SD's polling poorly in MNW. He's another one who doesn't have a clue about the function of an MEP.



  • #598
    nullzero
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,166 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122246223#Comment_122246223

    A reminder of how awash with left wing parties/candidates this country is.

    FFG are marginally right of centre, and not really in any sense over the last few years. Everyone else in Irish politics is on a sliding scale from left of centre to full on Trotskyists, bar the few far right weirdos of course.



  • #599
    wazzzledazzle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭wazzzledazzle


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122246356#Comment_122246356

    He likes to think he's some kind of expert on housing. Same kind of expert O'Broin is, if you get me



  • #600
    JVince
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,459 ✭✭✭JVince


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122246243#Comment_122246243

    seems if someone disagrees with you, then they are wrong.

    Ever thought people might have a different opinion - or do you not accept that people may have a different opinion on things including presenters/commentators

    seems to be a recurring aspect of many of your posts



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  • #601
    wazzzledazzle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭wazzzledazzle


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122246385#Comment_122246385

    I'm more than respectful to other posters views.

    But Gavan Reilly is in no way shape or form a good political commentator.

    Anyway, i'm not dragging this off topic any further



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