Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings - updated 11/5/24*

Demographers and the CSO think the population of what is now the Republic will rise to around 6m by the year 2050. The absolute upper end of their prediction is around 6.5m.

Are you attempting to WUM here to get a reaction? Is this your tactic?

Point out the post where I said what you have claimed in the quoted post?

Please point out where I claimed you said that. You asked me how to deal with the demand for housing. I gave you two potential solutions one could consider.

You said

no matter who is in government they are not going to magic up the number of houses needed now or in the future in the next year or 2 or maybe 5. So what happens in the mean time,

people coming to the country on work visa and Asylum seekers be they legal or illegal just all get tents so that they camp out on streets, canals and parks? Unless there is a slow down in people either coming into the country or as we seen in the past an upsurge in people leaving the country they will never be able to catch up on those needing housing.

Now, since you've claimed you have never had an issue with legal immigration, what exactly are you proposing to do, to "slow down people coming into the country" to help solve the housing accommodation?

We're importing 20-30k this year sport, check the numbers to date in 2024. This ain't going to go down anytime soon unless a much harder line is taken. Just as one example: Nigeria added 100 million people in the last 30 years. The good news is it's projected to add another 170 million by 2050.

It's so sad to see our country turning into this

Heart breaking infact, all created by the hands of this government

Isnt this some horrible sight

https://gript.ie/a-walk-along-dublins-grand-canal-which-is-currently-encased-in-fencing/

Soon enough more places in Dublin will be getting this treatment, when you're not stopping the influx, it's going to get worse and more fencing will be required.

Hell I should put my tent selling business to aside and start manufacturing and selling fencing, that's where the money will be going next

Where is the pivot?

I've always said that asylum seekers / refugees form part of the demand for housing but that they also represent a fairly small cohort in the grand scheme of things, even within the foreign born population where the vast majority are regular visa / EU migrants. They certainly aren't a cause of the housing crisis, which pre-dates 2022 and their evaporation into thin air in the morning would not cause a drop in demand that would be anywhere near material enough. As things stand, they simply aren't for example a major source of competition for young Irish people to buy a home — whereas migrant workers with decent salaries might be, but that's within a wider context that migrants are statistically far less likely to be active in the housebuying market than Irish people.

All we need to do to solve this according to our betters is provide free houses for life for the 600 randoms arriving a week, the majority with bogus asylum claims (by our governments own admission). I mean why would anybody have an issue with that.

No issue at all Batman, provided those houses are going to be big enough for the large extended families that follow and enough land is allocated for suitable places of worship across each county.

/more sarcasm

Fitzwilliam Place at Leeson Street Bridge is a sewer

And that 'build more' answer is shared remarkably widely among those who defend and even promote Ireland as an immigration state. It's real head stuck in the sand thinking.

Your major problem is with "legal" immigration into the country, including EU citizens then? Refugees or asylum seekers aren't part of the accommodation rental process

Lovely. The landscape of the canal changed forever to try and keep these campsites out. I used to live and work around the canal for nearly 20 years and there was always something so beautiful about it. Lovely to sit on the grassy bank on a summers day. Really sad to see.

This. The result is essentially a thumbs up from the electorate to the government that they are doing a good job. The only party to be "punished" by their base was SF. Essentially the demographic that votes FF/FG are not effected by immigration or housing as they are the older generation who are comfortable and have no such worries.

SF's working class vote has jumped to the various fringe parties and independents which will effect no change as neither them nor SF will have any power. I think it shows that SF have failed to read the room as regards their position on a number of issues as it pertains to their base voter.

Ironically for young people heavily impacted by housing etc they tend to vote for more far left parties and candidates that not only want to continue our free for all approach to immigration but add to it. As much as I despise FF/FG at least Ireland still has a relatively centrist majority. I would like a new centrist alternative to these parties but that seems like a pipe dream.

The far right and far left still haven't gotten a foot hold in Ireland which is good. My concern seems to be with many twitter accounts that were espousing the dangers of far right candidates openly encouraging people to vote for "far left" candidates (the words used). Seems that history is not being thought well in our school system if these young people think the solution to the dangers of the far right is to vote for the far left. Far left ideology has never gone wrong before has it?

It's all quite depressing that the polarisation of politics is spreading like wildfire. You've seen it in America and now you are seeing it in Europe. At the end of the day the attitude of the ruling class and the media has lead to the rise of the far right. Just look at the media articles and tweets admonishing people who voted for such candidates instead of actually looking into why so many people who would have voted for centrist parties in the past are now gravitating to the right. They are too busy soap boxing their moral and intellectual superiority to look at the causes and try to come up with solutions.