Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings - updated 11/5/24*

Actually BAAB said 25 per cent ..the correct number is 20% as you say Augme .

Sure what's another 5 % added on , which most people who are informed would know, so baffling that BAAB would not supply the correct figure .

"with around 25% of our population identifying as foreign born "

according to this above from @Blind As A Bat .

And in another post talking about helping little Adil and Karim integrate in school I frankly don't believe is heartfelt at all ..(Maybe it's because the strong nativist sentiment would not go down too well in the workplace ? )

Considering previous posts which state that even those who identify as Irish with Irish passports are not Irish by some characteristics which would disqualify them from the total Irish package .

Who gives anybody here the right to decides this on these flimsy and ill judged reference points ?

What is next ?

If you don't know any Irish poetry , if you don't speak Irish , if you don't have freckles , if you have sallow skin , if you have never been to a céilí …?

How many people who consider themselves Irish and are functioning citizens of this country will pass these arbitrary tests ?

And why is this being discussed on a thread about refugees /IPAs

( Of course where else would somebody even try to shoehorn this type of discussion in )

This discussion reminds me of White Supremacists and discussing Obama and his birth certificate.

Just a load of nonsense to try to deflect from the local election results .

"Actually BAAB said 25 per cent ..the correct number is 20% as you say Augme ".

Thank you for the correction. The figure is 25% only in Dublin. I confused it with the fact that 76.6% of people who completed the 2022 Census identified as ethnically Irish. In 2016 it was 82.2%.

The information regarding attacks on border guards in Poland? It's on many different mainstream news sites but I got it from Notes From Poland.

https://notesfrompoland.com/about-us/

As the country is well aware at this stage, the current AS process merely serves as a vessel for illegal migration.

Anyone who is deluded enough to think otherwise isn't worth engaging with, they're only in it to bait and report.

They just keep coming and coming. We looked the other way too long.

Just a quick response to the various posters who seem to think I'm a white supremacist or something similar, I may come across as a bit 'wrap the green flag round me boys' but I'm not a racist, right wing nut job.

I do think however, that we as a nation (and by we, I mean those of us of Irish descent) are pretty complacent. We take what's left of our heritage for granted. We seem to think that somehow because a surprising amount of it survived 800 years of colonisation, famine and effective genocide, it will automatically continue to exist. Just don't be too sure of that. If people of Irish descent become a minority, there is a chance that it won't survive. Maybe some people really don't care. I'm just saying that I do.

As I've said numerous times I don't have any issue with foreigner settling permanently in Ireland but I'd prefer to see proper, skills based quotas, and greater control of numbers especially when it comes to lone males from countries like Nigeria, Georgia and Pakistan. 30,000 a year over the next ten years will add nothing desirable to our culture in my view and will ruin us economically if we continue to fund it at the level we are. And to get back to the bottom line, how in God's name are we going to house them?? In the immediate future and the long term future - bearing in mind that those accepted for asylum will then bring their families.

I'm also worried about the fact that we know there must be some dangerous men amongst them. The law of averages would tell us that. I'm baffled as to why some people don't seem to be worried by that.

Anyway, I'm not going to keep repeating myself. That's it.

So if the law changes and asylum claims from a set list of countries (aka a safe list) are deemed invalid, and therefore not worthy of consideration, you have no issue with that?

Good to hear.

I agree it's disgusting to see it turned into a hate symbol.

Especially when some of this group also have it in for Irish people who disagree with them, or those who don't fit their ideas of Irishness.

Agree with most of your post ,BAAB as regards quotas and housing

Just think that being Irish is evolving constantly.We have changed as a people both culturally and socially so much from my parent's generation as they did from their grandparents and we may indeed find our grandchildren totally different as well both culturally and in every other way .😊

We are still Irish though , as will they be .

Thought it was the NGOs who were The Evil Ones ?!

maybe not if they are watching the huge marie le pen vote in france and macrons call for a snap election europe is rapidly changing albeit somewhat slower here

Actually The last eurostat fugure for 2023 is 21.8% not 20% ... I'm curious as to why it being 25% would even matter though as all immigration is equal wholesome and progressive.. isn't it? By 2050 it will be greater than 50%. We have the 4th highest percentage of foreign born people living in the EU 27. We are a small nation with a small population. For my part I strongly beleive we should be doing our best to ensure that the culture traditions values and essence of of country should be protected and people who are not Irish should be integrated into our society in the best way possible to contribute to it.

It's been said many times on here the issue is not legal migration, rules based visa systems where we advertise for roles and people apply and come here legally. They come with a work ethic and a willingness to adopt to and contribute to our culture. The expression adopted Irish used to exist millenia ago before it was outlawed by the far left its why we didn't call every person who landed in Dublin Airport Irish when their feet touched irish soil.

The issue is mass "irregular" immigration and integration into our country. I beleive that the Irish people and our culture/traditions/values are worthy of preserving. You cannot do that succesfully with mass immigration all you will do is polarise people, tribalism is a human trait it applies to irish just as much as it does to anyone born outside of ireland and will affect integration.

I feel that comment makes a good few baseless assumptions about me. I detest Putin. The man is a monster and the behaviour of Russian forces in Ukraine when they waded in there was nothing less than Satantic. The Russian regime, ever since the Bolshevik revolution has been pure evil. I'm very well read on the subject of Russian history.

As for Belarus - I was not referring to Belarussian nationals. I was referring to the migrants from Iraq and Syria who are camped out on the Polish/Belarussian border, a situation that has been going on for a couple of years now. They have been invited there by Putin and Lukashenko, given Russian or Belarussian visas and then told that it will be easy to simply cross the border into Poland and thus the EU. When they find that that they've been duped, some of them become understandably angry and violence erupts.

Probably most of them are decent people of course and one feels for the unfortunate women and children who have been brought there by their men. It's a sad situation. One of the guys interviewed by Human Rights Watch was a 24 year old who said he was a graphic designer. He's a good example because he had previously applied for a work visa for the EU and been turned down so decided to try his luck illegally. I do feel sorry for the guy but we can't just take in everybody who wants to come to Europe.

Btw I have friends of all nationalities and religions. Turkish people are some of the nicest you could meet. I have four Turkish friends, one a research scientist, one a software engineer, another in banking, one a lecturer in nursing, charming, delightful people. If we had more of their ilk and fewer of our own scumbag class, Ireland would be a better place.