Six Points for Speeding and Mobile Phone Use

This exactly.

Looks like common sense has prevailed.

Micheal Martin sees that 4 speeding fines in 3 years = ban is already pretty harsh.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-41409482.html

There's a correlation between speed/force of impact and severity of damages in a collision. Is there any relationship between speed and frequency of collisions?

Then that would imply motorways being the worst offenders for collisions. Is there any evidence that bears this out?

It certainly had all the hallmarks of kite-flying.

In fairness, six points for any speeding offence would be too much, particularly when you consider that before too long, the offence could be driving at as little as 36 km/h on a deserted street in a provincial town in the middle of the night.

There'd be some merit to having a graduated series of how penalty points would apply - e.g. four points for going more than 15km/h above the limit, five points for going more than maybe 25km/h above it, etc.

Would also be in favour of more severe penalties for mobile phone use, because really, there's no excuse for it. But six points for every single speeding offence, no matter how minor, would be just disproportionate.

only an average of 80,000km a year and to date have clocked up in excess of 3million KM. A few years ago I'd think nothing of doing Dublin - Waterford - Cork - Killarney - Limerick and back to Dublin on a day.

They are slower drivers - which some people tend to think means bad drivers. And sometimes they can be ultra slow.

But they do not contribute to road deaths and that is borne out by actual real evidence.

There'd be some merit to having a graduated series of how penalty points would apply - e.g. four points for going more than 15km/h above the limit, five points for going more than maybe 25km/h above it, etc.

I was thinking that last night but more the higher the speed the higher the points.

So If you are doing 36kph in a 30kph zone then two points, 59 in a 50 zone would be 3 points, 90 in a 80kph zone would be 4 points, 110 in a 100kph zone would be 5 points and 140 in a 120 zone would be 6 points any faster than than 141 and in a 120 zone would be an automatic driving ban, something like that and of course of you were doing 120 in a 50 zone then that would be 6 points, 90kph in that zone would be 4 points etc.

That woud put maners on people quick.

Can you elaborate or show even a scant bit of evidence of this? - Or like other posters is it something you've made up and have convinced yourself its true?

You do know that drivers from a huge number of countries can simply swap their "home" license for an Irish license. - All EU member states + EEA states + UK + South Africa, New Zealand, Australia, Japan, most of Canada & Switzerland.

Ukrainians may drive here as "license holders" with their Ukrainian license.

as for Ukrainian insurance - again, you can chose to believe Far right scumbags who target anything to spread misinformation for people to believe without question, or you can sit back and think - you've a 40k car and you are going to risk leaving it uninsured in a foreign country that has far too many nutters who spout hatred against any foreign person and amazingly you have managed to get through several countries without showing insurance as well.

Ukraine was and still is a tech hub. They have many well off people who work in tech and the HQ is in Ireland. Many also will drive here and visit relatives now living here - but far right scum will try and tell you otherwise, yet funny, they can NEVER provide any proof.

Was about to point that out myself….but maybe not in as blunt or sarcastic a manner!

In fairness, am sure those suggestions were just off the top of the other poster's head, same as I just typed up mine as examples of how it could operate.

On the suggestion of six points for 120km/h in a 50km/h zone - there'd probably be grounds there for a charge of dangerous driving or similar anyway, and the associated higher penalties that already brings.

for mobile phone use…?crush the phone and the car,no excuse for it,every car for certainly the last 15 years has bluetooth and any car can have a hands-free kit installed…its an epidemic and must be the cause of alot of crashes

Have you actually looked at the information they have published?

So you think foreign drivers are worse than Irish ones, obviously? Have you any evidence of this?

Have you any evidence they're not?

I can't tell you the amount of times I've happened upon some shitbox of a car doing some crazy manoeuvre and every time it was some crazy African.

So you've studied these documents, for example?