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Yeah evil is often bound up in religious or supernatural ideas. That just muddies the water.

Evil in a secular sense is usually psychopath behaviour. Doing terrible things for nothing more than their own pleasure and not feeling any remorse.

Gets tricky when you consider people who have a strongly held belief in a cause which you think is wrong or even just mistaken. Think terrorists like the1916 lads. They were probably ambivalent about what they did, but probably werent sorry. And got death penalties. Treasonous terrorists to the British establishment, heroic freedom fighters to most Irish people.

But if we're talking about psychopathic murderers like Ted Bundy, it's probably less muddy. Not sure we have many psychopathic serial killers in Ireland to merit introducing the death penalty though.

Sure. Not sure why you're telling me that. If you mean to say that most people with psychological disorders don't commit crimes but some do, then... yeah. Goes without saying, doesn't it?

On the first part of wat you said, there's a difference between a cause of a behaviour and an excuse. Sometimes finding out the cause of a behaviour is not an excuse at all. I think we should always want to know the cause of a behaviour if we want to avoid it happening again in the future.

A lot of the time you'll find that people who do terrible things experienced trauma early in life. Either acute trauma or prolonged trauma. That might offer an explanation but does it excuse the terrible thing the person did? Most likely not.

Yep, true, the FAI should shoulder the majority of the blame.

But Kenny should have been honest with himself and been aware of his limitations. His lack of first hand knowledge and experience of managing top level professionals.. and top level teams…that’s something he should have privately acknowledged and concluded… “ I’d love the job, right now I’m not a suitable candidate, maybe in 6/7 years…“

You are not going to get a person managing Jim & Deirdre’s corner shop with four or five employees to going straight to managing a local Tesco…. With 120 employees…. 1000 times the daily turnover, HR issues, security issues, head office targets, growth strategies etc….

There's a strong chance that after Trump's conviction yesterday, we're going to see the first shot of the American Civil War Part II: The Donkey/Elephant War by the end of this year, either as a response to Trumpism* losing the election the bat-**** will see it as a corrupt act and a call to war, or else Trump wins and it's taken by some as a sign God to cleanse the nation of non-Republicans.

*trumpism not necessarily meaning Trump himself, but certainly plenty of his acolytes.

Not Sure what point you're making.

Some people experience abuse and neglect and it affects their behaviour in later life, and sone people experience seemingly minor trauma which can also affect them later in life. Is that what you're driving at?

Not trying to be rude. I just didn't get you point.

I don't know if a seemingly minor event like that would cause BPD or the other disorders you mentioned. I'll take your word for it for the sakebf discussion.

Like I said, those things don't make the trauma highlights reel for the criminals and the case histories I mentioned earlier. It's more things like constant fear of beatings, sexual abuse, neglect and not having a parent they can rely on to provide basic needs, safety, stability and boundaries etc.

None of it is necessarily an excuse for anything. But you still need to understand the cause.

Christina Aguilera is a couple of tiers above Britney Spears in terms of looks. And definitely has held up better than her since passing 40, and isn't batshit mental either.

All round classier individual with an under-rated catalogue for the genre.

Have to agree with this, there was an article in the Irish Times about dealing with your teens yesterday, some suggestions were leave them socialise with their friends, allow them to take public transport, leave them at home for a short while before 16 and longer after, I couldn't believe what I was reading. WTF and I have three teens who have been doing all that since primary school. Insane molly coddling

Paying a small fortune to plod around muddy fields to see mediocre identikit artists. Don't get it either.

Add the Ploughing to national media obsession list. Dublin media decamping en masse to encounter country folk.

Not necessarily disagreeing with you, but why mention the TDs not doing much when the Senate could disappear into a sink hole and no-one would notice.

No. And that should be the main question that is asked of a Senator, or any new ministries, offices etc. created. What negative impact would there be if you're job didn't exist?