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2024 F1 General Discussion Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    BInotto to Aston Martin



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,669 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Italian Media, it was on Reddit yesterday as well.

    I could see him at Williams now, it would explain Albon resigning and why Sainz might be considering going there.

    William are on the up, which is really great to see. Just a case of how much they can keep that going.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    Vowles gave a speech yesterday talking about the 6 to 18 months ahead. Kinda thought maybe he knew something like newey was signing on



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,669 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    It would loop back to when Newey wanted to be part owner of the team, and Frank Williams said no, so off he went to McLaren.



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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 11,484 Mod ✭✭✭✭Andrew76


    Resign or re-sign? 😜 Wish it was the former.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,281 ✭✭✭✭Jordan 199


    "I saw the sign,

    And it opened up my eyes,

    I saw the sign."

    Yes, I was listening to Ace Of Base.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,017 ✭✭✭✭PsychoPete


    Reports saying Ocon being dropped for the Canadian race is "under serious consideration"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭quokula


    It's a bit of a stretch to say they're on the up. They're further off the pace than last year, were on zero points until Monaco and they've struggled to bring enough adequate replacement parts to even field two cars at every race. Vowles talks a big game and the media seem to love him but he's yet to prove anything. The main attraction of the team for Sainz seems to be that he can take a short deal at Williams and leave his options open in future, while Audi wanted to lock him down long term without any guarantee the project will be a success.

    I'll be surprised if Newey is anywhere other than his yacht next year. If he was seriously considering a move to another team rather than just taking time off and / or retiring he'd have had it lined up before leaving Red Bull.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,499 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    Newey would have a much bigger impact on a team like Williams though than Ferrari. That's where if like to see him go.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,499 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    The only link I saw is planet f1 who stuff this based on the fact he was spotted talking to Laurence Stroll. I can't see why Aston would bin off Krack for Binotto, he (Krack) seems to be doing well there



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,215 ✭✭✭wazzzledazzle


    AM seem to be in a bit of no mans land at the moment. Something seems off.

    Anyway, the next couple of months there will be massive changes amongst drivers, teams etc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,674 ✭✭✭✭vectra


    And not a minute too soon.
    He is some clown after last Sunday.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    It was really dumb, but I actually don’t think it affected the amount of points Alpine scored since Ocon was running out of the points anyway. To drop him for that would seem like a very drastic move to me. But there could be more going on that we don’t know about.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,215 ✭✭✭wazzzledazzle




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,499 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    He's proven again and again to be a bad teammate too. But I don't see the logic of dropping him for one race. If they have a decent replacement, take him now or wait until end of season...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,215 ✭✭✭wazzzledazzle


    Bad team-mate but decent driver.

    Alpine seems like a bit of a sinking ship to be honest. You can make cases for most teams being on the up (with the exception of HAAS) but with Alpine there never seems to be any kind of good news coming from their camp



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,868 ✭✭✭bennyx_o


    Ted (I know, I know!) was mentioning at some point over the weekend that the team principles have basically said Andretti can join, but only by buying an existing team and Alpine is potentially the one they could buy. Not the most reliable source, but given they seem to be in no mans land at the moment, now may be the best time for them to sell up



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,215 ✭✭✭wazzzledazzle


    Ted is one of the better ones they have at Sky. Also, i'd imagine the bosses at Renault Automobile are thinking this sh!tshow is potentially bad for business. If they become a laughing stock it potentially impacts retail sales, and also the money they have pumped in to the F1 eam already



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,499 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    Ya, it's been said a bunch that the obvious candidates for being sold are Alpine or RB. But with the new engines coming in 2026 and presumably a big investment having gone into the engine project by Renault, I'd be surprised if they want to sell until a year or 2 into new regs if they are still tanking.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,499 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    F1 2024 game driver ratings released. Discuss. I really hope they don't do that video they've done in the past where drivers guess their and their team mate's rating. Poor Sargent...

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,669 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    I think that is a tad unfair on William and Vowels. Himself and Pat Fry have basically rebuilt the infrastructure at the factory to run better and more efficiently, that won't naturally show in terms of results just yet, but they are very much in the rebuilding phase.

    Newey has already said he wants another challenge, he just hasn't said when yet. I think Williams is probably better suited to what he wants than any other team really.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭thefa


    That video was already up on YouTube by the time you posted! I don’t think there’s anything too crazy in those rankings as they’re using stats and factoring more than just immediate form as far as I’m aware. If it was 2024 form, you would need a good reshuffle for certain drivers.

    Pleasantly surprised that the stats have Alonso number two. Definitely a less sexy option than some of the younger alternatives but still a great driver when the cars going well. It’s a shame that Red Bull were so dominant in early 2023 when the Aston Martin was competitive and Alonso looked great - could have had race wins only for it.

    Personally, I rate Sainz a little bit below LeClerc and Norris. It’s easier for me to say now after each has picked up a recent race win but they are both brillant at qualifying and their ceiling has seemed higher than Sainz’s. In comparison to Sainz, I feel like LeClerc is judged more harshly as the expectations are so high and have been from the bar he set early on. Not taking away from Sainz who has had very good form over the last year or so. Ferrari are losing a very good driver.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,321 ✭✭✭✭klose


    They currently remind me of the time they had the Merc copy when they were racing point, they just can’t seem to keep on top of it when they eventually have a good car challenging at the front of the grid and they fall away. Obviously it will take another while to see if the aggressive hiring they’ve done over the past couple of years bears any fruit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,499 ✭✭✭✭dulpit




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,669 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    One thing that was great about the Monaco GP (maybe the only thing) was seeing the yellow cars going around. I know I am nostalgic and a bit prideful with Jordan F1, but their cars were really beautiful.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,499 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    The yellow was great. And as Eddie Jordan pointed out on his podcast at some point, it was always easy to pick them out of the crowd.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,818 ✭✭✭Brief_Lives


    Absolutely nothing to do with F1, but it made me laugh and it's yellow, from the comment above..

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,167 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    LOl

    I wish Laurence Stroll would send Lance somewhere else so Carlos could get that seat. That would be a great lineup at Aston Martin with Fernando and Carlos.

    At the moment Carlos's options are not great short term either Sauber/Audi or Williams but maybe long term they might have potential.

    If Carlos were to end up in Aston Martin then Bottas could go to Sauber/Audi and Tsunado could go to Williams.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,293 ✭✭✭Jacovs


    Perez confirmed at RedBull until end of 2025 season.



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