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Champions Cup final thread

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  • #512
    fitz
    Hosted Moderators Posts: 9,423 ✭✭✭fitz


    You won't convince me that Toulouse win that without the yellow card. They were out on their feet momentum was with Leinster, and there was a 10 point swing as a result and Toulouse were re-energized. Could we have played smarter? Yes. But I'm f*cking sick of having to talk about refs making blatantly incompetent mistakes and inconsistently reffing teams.

    Carley is so out of his depth it's not funny.

    On our own side, Leo needs to take a hard look at our on field decision making.



  • #513
    KaneToad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭KaneToad


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122182760#Comment_122182760

    They're far from clueless. They are consistently making finals but obviously not good enough. Cullen moving on might be an option as a bit of a reset is needed.

    Leinster backline is thin. Really missed Ringrose.

    Need to see the emergence/establishment of Osborne, Prendergast, TOB, JOB as regular influencers on games



  • #514
    ironingbored
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,029 ✭✭✭ironingbored


    Carley's been dreadful today.

    Ahki batted out no sanction vs Lowe YC Totally changes the game.

    Two no arms tackles not reviewed.

    Willis in from the side which led to a near try but for Larmour tackle.

    "Use it" for Leinster maul immediately while Toulouse maul stalls and nothing said.

    Dupont 1 sec turnover; Sheehan 5 seconds before a penalty given.

    Misses Lebel knock on, Healy headshot as a result.

    Rip by Ntamack called a knock on. Try disallowed.

    Having said all that, Leinster had enough territory and possession to win that game. A literal cigarette paper between these sides. Dupont the difference maker.



  • #515
    Cork29
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 259 ✭✭Cork29


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122182819#Comment_122182819

    still on about the ref?


    have a hard look at yourself.



  • #516
    thebaz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,150 ✭✭✭✭thebaz


    As A Leinster fan , Toulose were the better team , played better rugby, forwards are good , but the backs not good eneogh , Ringrose seriously missed in midfield and a top quality 10. Dupont what a player, head and shoulders best player on the pitc, JPG is good, but Dupont won the 9 battle, by some.



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  • #517
    awec
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122182819#Comment_122182819

    I know it’s hard to accept but the ref wasn’t a factor in the result today. It was a yellow card all day long.

    Leinster made so many bad decisions today.



  • #518
    [Deleted User]
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    Leinster messed that up big time, but good god did the ref give as much to Toulouse as humanly possible.



  • #519
    Inquitus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,796 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    Toulouse won the 2nd half of ET 9-0 down a man, due to some of the most brain dead rugby I have ever seen!



  • #520
    Curse These Metal Hands
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,177 ✭✭✭Curse These Metal Hands


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122182817#Comment_122182817

    Ah yes John Sexton as he's famously known.



  • #521
    BENDYBINN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭BENDYBINN


    awfull penalty Cian healy gave away at a crucial time…



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  • #522
    SqueakyKneecap
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,448 ✭✭✭SqueakyKneecap


    Cullen is so far out of his depth when it matters



  • #523
    joseywhales
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,598 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    I have never said it before(honestly) but Cullen has to go now, three tries is enough for anyone, whether it was his decision making or not , to develop Ross Byrne for example ahead of carbery and frawley and other ball players, when your culture is a ball playing team fundamentally is just cowardice and you cannot win with cowards. Cullen is at the top and his head must fall as an example.



  • #524
    StevenToast
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,519 ✭✭✭StevenToast


    Leinster bottled that final...make no mistake...

    Serious question marks over their mental strength....

    Not able to handle the pressure…

    "SUBSCRIBE TO BOARDS YOU TIGHT CÙNT".....Plato 400 B.C



  • #525
    breezy1985
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,491 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122182712#Comment_122182712

    Himself and JGP were not only immense at scrum half but they were the best players in other people's positions.



  • #526
    [Deleted User]
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122182854#Comment_122182854

    You would recognise that trait from their performances in the irish jersey.



  • #527
    honestbroker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 106 ✭✭honestbroker


    Ninebar is on his way to SA for another 2nd row, at least 2 outhalves and some junior players that at least know the laws (rules) of Rugby Union.



  • #528
    awec
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122182840#Comment_122182840

    that wasn’t Healys fault. The support players were way too slow.



  • #529
    AbusesToilets
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    Larmour had a good game defensively, but we desperately could've done with JOB's creativity to spark something.



  • #530
    KaneToad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭KaneToad


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122182840#Comment_122182840

    Doris penalty was worse.



  • #531
    Clegg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,984 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Leinster had so much possession and territory in to game which they couldn't convert into points. Completely different to previous fixtures against Toulouse where we scythed through them.

    Our attack just isn't as good as seasons past. We didn't seem to acknowledge that until it was too late. Turned down so many kickable opportunities.



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  • #532
    degsie
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    Congrats Toulouse, best team on the day.



  • #533
    dublinman1990
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,401 ✭✭✭dublinman1990


    I'm devastated at the result. Leinster looked like they really tried hard to go up against Toulouse. However Leinster have fallen well short of their efforts today for their 3rd Final in a row.

    It's such a huge disappointment to see Leinster fall down at this hurdle once again. Their confidence as a team must be completely destroyed at this particular great moment of greatness before them.

    Toulouse however have won their sixth star at a European Rugby Final. That is a really huge achievement for the whole team. They are one of the best sides of Europe at this time.



  • #534
    fitz
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122182832#Comment_122182832

    Sorry, the standard was set in the first half. If you're going to ref the one handed knock on in the first half a couple of meters from the line as not even a penalty, then you go straight to a yellow for one where the ball goes through both Lowes hands near the 22, then you're not reffing consistently. What would have happened if he'd given a yellow in the first half when we were starting to settle and start to apply pressure. The ref was absolutely a factor.

    Our bad decisions were a factor too. Both things can be true.



  • #535
    breezy1985
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,491 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    I don't think Leinster were ever ahead.

    Could have taken a penalty to go ahead which would have surely changed the dynamic of the game.



  • #536
    Augme
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭Augme


    A fantastic win by Toulouse. Well deserved. They played excellent Cup final rugby. Defended extremely well and took their points when the opportunities came.



  • #537
    Inquitus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,796 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    I was driving for the DG at the end of normal time, was it close?



  • #538
    awec
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122182892#Comment_122182892

    the one in the first half wasn’t a knock on. It went backwards.



  • #539
    ironingbored
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122182832#Comment_122182832

    The question is why wasn't it the same for Toulouse batting it out in the first half. It's the inconsistencies.



  • #540
    KaneToad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭KaneToad


    At the start of the season I thought Byrne was the better option for the green 10 shirt. However he's been so inconsistent since he returned from injury. Another okish performance but we need more than that from a Leinster 10.

    Will Frawley get a look in again? Will Prendergast be able to make the step up?



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  • #541
    Paul Smeenus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,280 ✭✭✭Paul Smeenus


    Carley was even-handed. When it gets frenetic he doesn't worry about details, for any team. He stood and watched Porter boring in for long stretches because he's not terribly au fait with scrums.



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