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Near Misses Volume 2 (So close you can feel it)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 697 ✭✭✭ARX


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 53,389 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    i'm always wary about dissecting videos - it's easy to see things in a field of view in a video which would not be what would be the focus of attention for the cyclist.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,569 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    To be fair to the person who uploaded that, there's really only 2 incidents I'd put him at fault for.

    The one at 30 seconds; the videographer is entering a main road from a secondary road. The pedestrian is continuing along the main road, and technically has the right of way.

    Yes, the pedestrian is engrossed in his phone and not aware of his surroundings, but equally well he's within his rights to continue to cross there. Piss poor awareness from the rider not to see that he was likely to step out.

    The one at 2.22 - riding into the back of someone and blaming them not having a brake-light - that's a symptom of not leaving a safe gap to stop in - no different to a driver tailgating someone.

    For some of the others, a bit of anticipation might have made them less of a close call, but equally well it's not like he's going so fast as to have to lock up to stop in time. I think the nature of the camera makes the speed look a bit higher than it is

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,803 ✭✭✭standardg60


    Couldn't disagree more with your first point, no pedestrian has the right to wander straight out on the road like that.

    And agree more with your second, the brake light one was just stupid on his part.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,569 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    The pedestrian isn’t “wandering out into the road”, they are continuing along the main road.
    Unless the junction is light controlled then the pedestrian continuing along the main carriageway has priority over any motorist or cyclist who is entering or exiting the main roadway.

    Legal right of way doesn’t mean it’s sensible to just continue regardless, and any sane pedestrian will check that it’s safe before proceeding across the junction - but that doesn’t change that they have the legal right of way there.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,230 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    Oof Righttobikeit had a nasty accident for no apparent reason, havent seen it mentioned anywhere else so apologies if posted already:

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 53,389 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    That looks sore - he points out in a subsequent tweet that he reckons his chain came off.

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,098 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    I though his chain dropped or slipped, rather than lock up the cassette, and so his left foot drops as he is out of the saddle, I've seen it happen before. On a side note, did that car just keep driving post, I have no sound in work.

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,098 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    That would explain the chain dropping and his left leg slipping down

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,442 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    Ooof is right. That looked properly sore. Sometimes it's the crashes you don't see coming that take the wind out of you the most, mentally as well as physically.

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 53,389 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    doing 40km/h+ along the side of the runway earlier, a chap driving a hannigan freight 40 footer overtook me, into oncoming traffic. it was not a mistake, it was quite deliberate. the motorist in the oncoming car had to swerve to avoid being hit.

    remarkably, just as he had about finished pulling back into lane, the driver of a van coming the opposite direction (behind the car mentioned above) appeared to swing towards the lorry while leaning on the horn, presumably as a way of voicing his displeasure. he got uncomfortably close to him.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,092 ✭✭✭De Bhál


    I emailed Fingal County Council and a few Fingal councillers after Christmas about installing some sort of hard shoulder or better still a cycle track along those roads by the runways. Swords Finglas by the back of the airport is a road I use often and the amount of close passes is scary enough.

    They responded eventaully saying

    A number of the perimeter roads around the airport are in the ownership of Dublin Airport Authority (DAA). There are ongoing discussions between Fingal County Council and the DAA in relation to changing these roads to public ownership which would allow Fingal to start planning for improved pedestrian and cycle facilities around the airport. Unfortunately at this moment we can’t provide a definitive timeline as government funding will be required and project teams are at capacity delivering other cycle schemes in north Dublin.

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 53,389 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    how common is that i wonder; public roads which are not in public ownership?

    i've often wondered why they don't stick a roundabout at the western end of the runway (the junction only a couple of hundred metres from the other roundabout); that can be hairy, and clogs up badly if the M50 is busy. maybe if that junction is also owned by DAA, they're not going to invest in that.

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 53,389 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    it turns out my father in law knows the owner of that truck company.

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,098 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Two near misses, one my fault. First, car came round a bend, head in phone, wrong side of the road. Missed me by inches, not even sure he noticed. The second was my fault for not keeping my ego in check. Winding back roads, lorry in front, never going to be a place for anyone to pass but we are doing the same speed so I give a gap just for breaking as he might have to. Two moron kids overtake me into the braking gap, so I had to slam on but my ego got the better of me and as soon as we had a straight stretch (roads not wide enough for an overtake), I done to them what they done to me and called in as I passed, telling them it was well **** worth it. It was childish, stupid and reckless but I'll hold my hands up and admit that but that doesn't make me right and I'm a bit ashamed of it as I'd have had more of an impact just sitting in his rear view like I was for the first few minutes, hands off the bars and shrugging my shoulders like a sarcastic f*ckhole.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,061 ✭✭✭nicksnikita


    When the opportunity arises, I would usually make eye contact with the driver, smile and give a thumbs up as a sarcastic response to daft driving.

    It usually enrages the driver even more than an abusive response. It also takes the opportunity for the aggressive verbal response away from the driver. Or if they’re aggressive, I always ignore, or laugh.

    I don’t do any urban commuting anymore though.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 502 ✭✭✭elchupanebrey


    Driving to the exit of a housing estate yesterday. Cyclist in front of me, car in front of them. Just before the exit of the estate onto main road there is a right turn into a shop/pub carpark. The driver in front stopped to take the turn into the carpark. Cyclist decides just as the car is beginning it's turn to scoot around the right of the car to cross the road and mount the footpath on the other side. Luckily the driver reacted at last second or the biker would have been face planting the side of the car. Cyclist didn't even notice how close they came to getting a rattle

    (I say cyclist but they were using a motorised bike/scooter hybrid thing with small wheels and a saddle, not sure what they are)

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 53,389 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    today i hit the side of the runway and turned right (crash on the M50, which snarls up the road westbound along the runway).

    a lad in a black qashqai overtook me; again into oncoming traffic, who had to swerve to avoid him. about 100 or 150m after passing me, he braked and indicated to turn right into na fianna's grounds. i guess he was late for something.

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 53,389 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    good ****, driving really *did* get worse in the eight month hiatus i had off the bike. two quite hairy ones in about 10km today.

    going up through ballymun, approaching lights which went green, so i accelerated. but the guy in the white van to the right (i was in the bus lane, he was in the normal driving lane) decided 'actually, i want to go left at this junction' and put his indicator on at the very instant he gunned it and swung left. if i'd been two or three metres further up the lane, he'd have hit me.

    then, on a winding countryish road, some **** with an N plate who'd been stuck behind me less than five seconds, decided to overtake into a blind bend, just as a double decker bus appeared round the bend. i'd say he missed it by about a metre. i suspect the bus driver needs new pants.

    we were travelling in the direction the camera is facing here:

    https://www.google.com/maps/@53.4569871,-6.2662067,3a,75y,320.18h,81.61t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLVE8ya6R5G9chdbxjsHYLA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?coh=205409&entry=ttu

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 953 ✭✭✭monkeyslayer


    Nearly got rammed into the ditch by the local postman yesterday… was ambling up a quiet sunny kidare laneway with not a care in the world when started to pass a parked post van with its engine idling outside a garden gate when suddenly it sprung to life and came straight for the side of my bike only for him to hear me shout and swing back in and miss me by about a half a millimetre. I just kept going, afraid I might actually get violent with this guy if he tried to reason he was right, he slowed along side me a bit further up and apologized I just said check your mirrors and your blind spot will you please, I could've been a child, a horse, a car, anything really. He kept talking but I just went on after saying there's nothing really to discuss, I'm not in the mood, just check your surroundings.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 104 ✭✭Quango Unchained


    I had a recent unpleasant experience with an An Post van. He overtook me on a stretch of road, where a stop-go was in place and the other half of the road was closed. The road was only closed for about 150m, the overtake was too close and totally unnecessary. He stopped just up the road to pull out some post and was looking over his shoulder to see my reaction. I just kept going.

    I used to work in an office beside an An Post depot. Everyone in the office used to complain about the maniacal driving around the carpark.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 481 ✭✭munsterfan2


    2 for the price of one today - I know we were a bit far apart, I'd slipped my chain so we were trying to catch up with the group…. https://streamable.com/doa20n?src=player-page-share

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,713 ✭✭✭Wildly Boaring


    Ugh

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43 Kissy_Lips


    Not a lot to be gained engaging. Best to ignore it. One time as motorist I was at the entry barrier to Trinity street car park. A cyclist flew up to the open window and said I nearly hit him. I didn't see him at all before this. I checked my mirror turning off Trinity street and all was clear. I've no idea where I might have been close to him. I said sorry I didn't see you. Then he got madder and redder and said I nearly hit him. I said I didn't see him. Then he got even madder and even redder and was apoplectic. I felt trapped and couldn't see a way out of this so I got apoplectic and we just screamed at each other till he moved away from my window. Pointless.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,436 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    I disagree that there's not a lot to be gained by engaging.

    If you don't engage, nothing is going to change. If you do engage, reasonably, in a civil manner, there is a chance that you're going to impact future driving by that driver for the better.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,426 ✭✭✭07Lapierre


    this kind of engagement is not recommended: Kilkenny driver took hurley from car boot and ran after cyclist on south Dublin street in ‘heat of the moment’

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,442 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    Don't necessarily disagree with you, but I just couldn't be arsed. The cyclist v motorist c**p driven by the media means you're just as likely to do as much harm as good by even trying to politely engage. When the State starts to take the issue of road use and safety seriously, then maybe I'd reconsider. But its not my job to be the primary educator of other road users, however well meaning.

    Dangerous driving is a different issue - there, yes, I'd certainly make my views known.

    My approach is to take the opposite angle, and I try to show my appreciation for considerate drivers, cyclists, pedestrians where possible. Hopefully build a bit of good karma on the roads.

    But as I said, I don't judge anyone who takes inconsiderate drivers to task. It's just not for me. Can't be bothered with the negative energy that sits with me for the rest of the spin.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,454 ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    There is an extremely remote chance of anything bad happening of you confront someone. You will find the odd case but very rare. They will get mouthy alright. O have rarely had anyone genuinely apologise

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,098 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Experience has taught me that the only chance of an apology is how you approach them. If they are going to mouth of, they will mouth of regardless of how you approach them but there are a subset who will say sorry, they don't always get what they done wrong but its better than nothing at all. It normally takes a softly softly approach. This said I had one guy jump out to deck me because I shrugged my shoulders at him as he ran straight through a crossing where I had the right of way, so sometimes doing nothing at all is also not risk free.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,436 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    It's not about an apology. I don't give a toss about whether they apologise. I just want to know that there's a chance that they'll think twice the next time they are faced with a similar decision.

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