Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings - updated 11/5/24*

https://www.clare.fm/news/international-protection-service-considering-use-abbey-hostel-ennis/#:~:text=It%20comes%20almost%20two%20weeks,them%20to%20prepare%20for%20relocation.

Here's the link

Listened to Ciaran Cuddihy show this evening. Just hope Brendan Ogle never gets a gig in this town. So dogmatic on how he would ‘Fix’ the current solution and guess what build one for everyone in the audience m

What a mess

But, but, what about the genuine Ukrainian refugees? Pull the other one:-)

Is that meant to be some sort of gotcha? You can believe that they're genuine refugees but that their benefits were far too generous and that it was mad to spend so much on their pets at the same time

The article from the journal about Leitrim says 'Locals have told The Journal that tens of children attending local schools are living in the hotel, and that it is mainly Ukrainian women, kids, and older people who are residents there.'

What’s your position on this then? Can you clarify?

It appears you agree with it when it makes no sense whatsoever.

Would you not also agree that a Ukrainian refugee is much more likely to be in need of our help then a “refugee” who arrives here illegally and does not disclose identities etc?

Well covered on Drivetime on RTE this evening. The Ukrainian ladies none too happy to move to Lisdoon from Ennis, not so good transport links and further from services. Well you know what, if you wanna live in Ireland they may put up with what Irish rural people have to deal with in terms of lack of transport and services. Then there was Igor & his girlfriend who might lose jobs. Well Igor, there's plenty of work to be done back in Ukraine and he'll be very welcome home I'm sure. Complaining about the quality of your situation should be far down the war refugees list of thoughts.

Counter balancing this was the owner/ manager? of Durty Nellies, a well established business near Bunratty on the go for more years than I can recall. He reported that his business was decimated, little or no night time economy and little accommodation to be got locally by visitors to the region.

Would Roderic O'Gorman & Catherin Martin please stand up and give an account of yerselves. It's a disgrace how domestic tourism is being wrecked on the altar of these policies. One lad interviewed thought it was a trade off, that we take the farm subsidies from the EU and to repay, suck up the extra population.

One things for sure, the chickens are coming home to roost in the first week of June.

The Ukrainians in the hotel in Drumshanbo have been told that that can’t bring their pets either and have to to sort that out themselves. They’ll have 48 hours notice of where they’re heading. It’s in that journal article. So after paying millions out in vet bills…….

As lotus flower said above. An absolute mess.

Yes agreed, there should be no problem at all. It's perfectly reasonable for the state to manage the accommodation and location of war refugees. It's disappointing to hear complaints about it, no-one is entitled to be accommodated in specific places that they prefer. Sure, we'd all like that.

So you have no issue with kids being taken out of schools then.

Yes Arthur, the reason (and get this) is because it's a graph of the IPAS accommodation occupancy -

Nice one - Muddy the waters with the overall increase in the EU when we're talking about Ireland specifically

Those masters of misinformation (the BBC) have Ireland's increase between the two compatible years 2019/2022 at 186% - it's way more now obviously

BBC

An annual analysis of migration figures shows how Ireland experienced a sharp rise in most types of immigration in 2022.

The top three countries of origin were Georgia, Algeria and Somalia, accounting for 45% of all applicants.

13,651 non-Ukrainian applications for asylum in 2022 and of those, 45% were from Georgia, Algeria and Somalia

Remind me again which languages the tweets went out in

Latest figs on state/hotel accom for our friends

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c727n712n47o

The vast majority are not from the war zone. They won't have any animosity leveled at them.

I'm beginning to wonder if this all ends in a massive war or genocide in Europe at some stage.

It's fanciful until you remember that 110 years ago a war which resulted in 40 million deaths started over less.

We already have a war going on in Europe, and a lot of very pisxed off citizens.

The one thing that doesn't change in history is human nature.