Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings - updated 11/5/24*

there's a difference between being concerned about immigration and marching behind irish lives matter and ireland for the irish banners with a crowd containing some absolute nutjobs though. i'd love to know what their plans would be to stop migration from the north where most are coming from. we need a hard border for one, but we don't even have an army and an already overstretched police force, there are 100s of roads into ireland from the north. and how do you quickly deport people with no documents? where do you keep them while you figure out how to deport them? i can't see any realistic solutions coming any time soon.

Marian Harkin is the only TD that I’ve ever heard who wants to talk about the crux of the issue - international obligations. Everyone else just wants to hide behind those obligations rather than saying “wait a minute, the Geneva conventions need to be looked at as a matter of urgency”.

Denmark government had also raised the put at a UN level too, I think.

to be fair, the people in the tents on the canal and mount street are harmless too

Verona Murphy in Wexford too has expressed strong reservations about the direction in which we are led.

Both independents - that's where my votes are going in next few elections. Remove the current crowd, they are not acting in our interests, so put them to pasture.

Nothing hilarious about it at all, there was at the "very least" 10,000 at it.

Don't see how it is any more a pea take than those from Nigeria ( biggest by far) Pakistan, Bangladesh and Jordan.

And that is by no means an exhaustive list.

Vote? Thing is the anti immigration people going for euro and local elections seem to be people you wouldn't want anywhere near politics

Yes obviously but voting only comes around every few years so what do you do to protest in the meantime. Its unfortunate but can't prevent them people showing up. It seems if its right leaning protest its demonised but left wing protests applauded. And yesthem far right people haven't a hope of getting elected.

Impossible to stop, that's my point but can't tar all with the same brush. IF a racist says the sky's blue, doesn't make it untrue because a racist said it.

€113.80 per week for International Protection Applicants without accommodation, that's €75 more than IP applicants who have accommodation..

Maybe they made a mistake and meant an extra €75 on their weekly allowance which would bring it up to €178.80 but they definitely said €75 added to their daily allowance which would make it €638.80 a week.

It wouldn't surprise me if it was daily to give them the ability to pay for a bed for the night. Of course they'd rather pocket the money and sleep rough.

RTE have form in fudging the numbers at rallys and protests, up or down as it suits them. British media pull this one too, another trick they use is to hang around until a protest has finished and then take photos of groups of stragglers that are still hanging around to make it look like it was poorly attended.

After a lot of time spent reading this thread, I think a quota is the solution.

We're in a position where the far left refuse to consider any concerns and attack anyone who might be upset in any way as far right. Then we have a position here that I don't see in real life yet where Islamophobia and sectarianism is becoming acceptable.

A quota of 15,000 per year would probably be workable. Assuming 50% are non genuine, that would mean processing 30,000 per year. That could be 15,000 per half year with people told to return the next half. I could imagine a huge surge in January/ July but a significantly lower likelihood of people rough sleeping in a queue. Who wants to queue for five months.

That 15,000 would include whatever family might be replicated by a refugee or former refugee too.

If there were exceptional circumstances such as Ukraine, a referendum would be required to increase the number for one year maximum

Whatever legislation needs to be changed, do it and move on.

I was away for a weekend. This has been dominating the national conversation too long and is toxic. The above is a workable non racist solution.

In tandem, housing needs to be sorted. End of

Yes that is correct but if you don't believe me take a look at the report on the VM news at 5:30 yesterday, at the end of the piece they 100% said

"those who are not provided with accommodation and are eligible will receive a temporary increase of €75 to their daily expense allowance."

If they're getting an increase they're already getting the €113.80 as they've not been provided with accommodation. As far back as January I can remember hearing on the news that adult male IP applicants were being given a tent and €113.80 a week.