Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

Yes we know that. If there is no accommodation they are handed 113 per week while they live in a tent or couch surf, or if moved to citywest etc its 38 per week.

Next question is how are they paid, cash or into a bank account, with the possibility they can head to another country once they start receiving payment? Do they have to "sign on" like the dole?

It may only get worse as UK started rounding up failed UK asylum applicants ahead of a one way flight to Rwanda yesterday. For any of those in scope that don't want to go there, borderless Ireland has to be where you will run to. The NI border areas could become another Calais....

According to an article in the Daily Telegraph on Tuesday, some of them still believe they will be getting a nice house etc here.

UK wants to make their problem with refugees transiting through EU/France an EU problem, and Ireland need the EU on board now. This is heading for a major diplomatic incident that Brexit avoided.

A secret briefing paper from the Department of Justice said the State urgently needed to resume deportations as the majority of applicants for international protection were economic migrants.

When the DoJ say 'the majority' they don't mean 51% - it's more likely 80%+

You've been shown figs regarding an almost zero deportation rate too, so perhaps we're not the one's posting false info eh - so maybe think a little bit before throwing out this:

The amount of misinformation people believe about refugees without checking facts is frightening.

I think its people already here that couldnt get accomodation in Swords/Citywest etc. So they returned to the IPO office.

I thought the IPO office was closed though....so not sure why they would be bussed back to Mount St.

I think govt estimates are 20k + this year. First 3 months were over 5k, so we are on track for 20k + this year.

Apparently there is only enough govt staff to cope with processing around 14k applications.

As for accomodation for 20k asylum seekers this year? Hmmm....

This makes me very uneasy. Why does it feel like some renters could end up being pushed out of their accomodation.

The Govt have lost their minds. Very dangerous territory.

It's actually really hard to believe this is happening right now. Doesn't feel real.

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/fresh-drive-to-buy-up-properties-for-asylum-seekers-as-up-to-100-migrants-on-mount-st-told-no-beds-available/a2073617781.html

No she didn’t. It has been a feature since at least the 1999 Immigration Act, which dealt with Immigration of failed asylum seekers prior to the 2015 International Protection Act. It has never been possible to remove a failed asylum seeker ( or indeed anyone else illegally in the State) without a Deportation Order. The system under that Act is that a proposal to deport must be issued. This gives the subject three options: They can consent to the DO, they can voluntarily leave before a DO is issued ( meaning that they can try to come back legally without a DO hanging over them) or they can make representations as to why a DO should not be made. If, after consideration, a DO is not made, then a person was always given leave to remain.

Honestly, there is some amount of commentary around this subject by people who don’t know what they are talk8ng about.

Yep. Its always been the inevitable outcome. If a govt doesnt address and engage with an issue which is really important to people, it doesnt go away, it carries the electorate away with it.

No it doesn't get ignored, its just that some people keep deliberately conflating legal immigration with illegal. We know that people coming here to work via the legal means actually bring a lot of positive things to this country. We also know there are genuine cases of asylum seekers. But we also know there are chancers coming from safe countries destroying documents on the way. This was reported on in mainstream media so it's not anecdotal. Only a few months ago there was an article in the Irish Times about a Georgian national who destroyed his documents and his families too. He got to stay in free accomodation and got food paid for and also worked a cash in hand job

Someone from a safe country coming here to claim asylum is no different to someone from Ireland showing up in Australia and doing the same. Only difference we wouldn't get very far trying that in Australia.

What's particularly worrying is that it says interested parties with property to offer have up till the end of next year to register their interest - that suggests there is no intention to try to stem the flow of bogus asylum seekers, quite the contrary. It suggests they're preparing for more.

It is actually outrageous. Nothing like this was ever done to help the huge number of decent Irish people of all ages who cannot even find accommodation to rent, let alone buy at an affordable price but the government can move heaven and earth to accommodate some random guy from Albania or Georgia.

I fully supported taking our share of Ukrainian refugees at the start of the war, but why are we continuing to take people from all over the universe when there is nowhere for them to stay? And why is the government doing things like looking at buying up student accommodation for IPAs? Where are the students supposed to go?

And there are posters deliberately conflating asylum seekers with illegal immigration.

Australia also have asylum seekers.

Asylum seeker.

I think some people are trying to distinguish between tax paying immigrants and non-tax paying immigrants.