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150KTubs - future career in Virgin Radio and other soulful pursuits **Mod: Read OP**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,480 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Funny I don't get that impression at all, though I always felt that he feigned all most all of his excitement about his work, I always felt as soon as he took over on TLLS it was beneath him in someway. Perhaps it was!


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,504 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Salman Rushdie is published by Simon and Schuster. Probably a bit outside Tubridy's target demographic. Publishers want interviews that will convert to sales. Tubridy's podcast with about 300 views on Youtube a day might be at the very low end of the spectrum for the volume of publicity that Rushdie's publisher would want. The standard promotion would be TV, Radio, high brow newspaper interviews and large book club podcasts. If he was a guest on Tubridy's podcast, Tubridy would probably ask him about Aero.

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,896 ✭✭✭Bobson Dugnutt


    people don’t go to YouTube to watch podcasts, dude. The real metrics are on Apple Podcasts etc. Obsession rarely leads to objectivity.

    Being young is a great advantage, since we see the world from a new perspective and we are not afraid to make radical changes - Greta Thunburg



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,823 ✭✭✭yagan




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,896 ✭✭✭Bobson Dugnutt


    The dude is one of the best known broadcasters in Ireland. He was hardly going to take the Golden Oldies slot on Nursing Home FM.

    Being young is a great advantage, since we see the world from a new perspective and we are not afraid to make radical changes - Greta Thunburg



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,893 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    According to the New York Times:

    A surge of interest in podcasts on YouTube, which added features making them easier to play and discover last year, has made video hard to resist for a wider range of podcasters. It is now the top platform for podcast consumption in the United States, overtaking both Apple Podcasts and Spotify. According to a survey published last fall, 28 percent of podcast consumers now do so on YouTube most frequently, compared to 15 percent who use Spotify and 12 percent who use Apple Podcasts. Those results are the reverse of five years ago, when 29 percent of consumers used Apple Podcasts and just 15 percent preferred YouTube.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,823 ✭✭✭yagan


    Some would argue that rte is nursing home fair. I didn't have a tv for nearly twenty years until the pandemic when we had to take in an elderly who needed her "murder she wrote" and "heartbeat" fix.

    Once we helped her find navigate her smartphone she actually ended on that more with live streamed daily mass and rosaries from Lourdes and knock.

    I will say tg4 is great, Contractors is the best program on Irish tv at preset.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭GSF


    he’s not really integrating. Seems to be living in a work bubble and sustained by trips home or relatives coming to visit him



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,504 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Joe Rogan: 16.4 million subscribers and 3.49 Billion views.

    Ryan Tubridy: 32 likes and 959 views over 5 days (approximately 200 a day).

    NK Productions has 1.88K subscribers for its podcasts.

    Podcasting seems to be a highly competitive market and without the promotional engine of RTE to drive awareness for Tubridy and the lack of a slot on an Irish national broadcaster (Radio or TV), it seems hard for Turbidy to make an impact. I suppose that a few hundred views a day on Youtube for a relative newcomer to the podcasting scene is good and there may be a few from iTunes and Spotify to boost that number.

    Fame seems to have its own half life. For people who listen to the 09:00 slot on RTE, Oliver Callan has replaced Tubridy. Patrick Kielty has replaced Tubridy on the LLS. Tubridy has been off Irish national radio the best part of a year. The longer Tubridy remains off national Irish radio and TV, the more difficult it will be to get him a job in Irish national broadcasting. People may only remember him for the payments scandal. Even Gerry Ryan was forgiven for the Lambo incident. Shouldn't Tubridy's fans be hoping for a bit of the same forgiveness for Gerry Ryan's tea boy?

    Regards…jmcc



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,290 ✭✭✭Bellbottoms


    Probably best not to have Rushdie on. If he finds Larkin obscure. No chance he will recognise any of Rushdies picks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,290 ✭✭✭Bellbottoms


    Bobson, you get a lot of flack on this thread. Mostly unwarranted. But I always find it odd. That most of your posts are either defending Tubs. Or making snarky replies to other posters.

    It would be nice to hear more about how you like his radio show and how you feel about the podcast as a whole.

    I would certainly like to know more about what strenghts and weakness you see in Tubs as a broadcaster.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,290 ✭✭✭Bellbottoms


    TBF, I think shows like "Murder She Wrote", "Colombo", "Diagnosis Murder" etc. Fall under the catagory of comfort shows. Pretty formulaic stuff, with hundreds of hours of shows.

    I can't speak for Heartbeat. I've never it as a kid finding it a bit twee. So have no real idea what the show might or might not be like.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,290 ✭✭✭Bellbottoms


    TBF. Rogan is at the podcasting game for three decades, has world famous guests and the controversy helps as well.

    While Tubs, born with the right connections. Has spent four decades interviewing the RTE staff canteen.

    It's not a like for like compariosn.

    A better comparison might be Joanne McNally, David McWilliams (who in my opinon should have taken over LLS instead of RT) or Matt Cooper (who also would have made a much better LLS host).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,473 ✭✭✭Tork


    Out of interest, where do you think he will go next?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,290 ✭✭✭Bellbottoms




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,480 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Heartbeat is comfort programming also. It started out very issue based than it became, largely its soft 60s nostalgia, the idea of the small town police station dealing with a few issue based crimes, their love lives and final the auld rascals trying to make a quick book on the black market.

    Colombo is way out of the league of Murder, She Wrote and Diagnosis Murder. You might think he's a bit twee but the shows are very well written, particular those early seasons, the 1990s season are very much a nostalgic look back with writers who'd been writing on the Return of Perry Mason or Matlock.


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,145 ✭✭✭CollyFlower


    Does watching YouTube for a minute or two count as a view when they do the tally?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,504 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Tubridy was a very bad choice for the LLS. What is surprising is that Joe Rogan podcasts can run to four hours or more. Tubridy's style, by comparison, is like that of a spoilt child on a sugar rush hopping from topic to topic.

    McWilliams would have been a far more interesting LLS choice but he hadn't the connections that Tubridy had. Cooper would have done well too. Even Brendan O'Connor could have handled it. With podcasting, Tubridy seems to be a generation too late and what he thought was his audience turned out to be RTE's and that of the time slots all along. Very little of it seems to be translating to his podcasts.

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users Posts: 461 ✭✭Kingslayer


    @bellbottoms I noticed that Bobson stated a thread about Tubs before this one but it got closed down. You might get some answers from there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,480 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Yeah, but you can see how long some one stayed with the video and the most watched parts of the video, but I think views are simply if you have played a video from 1second.


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,579 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    Yes. A 1second viewing or a misclicking that loads the page counts as a view.

    You can also see retention stats on your own videos, when people tune in or tune out. Be interesting to see if theres a big dropoff of people closing the video in the first 60 seconds...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,933 ✭✭✭Brian Scan


    "McWilliams would have been a far more interesting LLS choice but he hadn't the connections that Tubridy had."

    What connections got Tubridy the LLS gig?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,504 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Incumbency. He had a "Tubridy Tonight" show before it and also a radio show or two. RTE management seem to be risk averse and incapable of innovation.

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,279 ✭✭✭hawley




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,050 ✭✭✭Hyperbollix


    Would encourage anyone who might be interested to listen back to Brendan O' Connor's half hour interview with Rushdie over the weekend. It was very clear Brendan had read the book, asked pertinent questions about key points in it and allowed the interviewee to talk at length about his stabbing ordeal and near death experience….

    There was no whooping, hollering, or inquiries about Salman's love of Ireland, Guinness or carrying pigs under his arm.

    Brendan's a real pro!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,933 ✭✭✭Brian Scan


    "RTE management seem to be risk averse and incapable of innovation."

    That's for sure.



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 7,556 Mod ✭✭✭✭HildaOgdenx


    I used to enjoy his tv show.

    He was a far better chat show host, in my opinion than either Tubridy or D'Arcy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,504 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Think that his show started getting more viewers than Tubridy's LLS so RTE management canned his show instead of giving him the LLS.

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,290 ✭✭✭Bellbottoms


    I remeber a guest on Ryans morning program. He was on somewhere between Jan 2021 and May 2022. He was the head od something or other. But effectivly Ryans bosses boss. He mentioned that when Ryan started he had been told by multiple people above him to keep an eye out for Ryan and to look after him.

    That would suggest some connections, no?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,050 ✭✭✭Hyperbollix


    Without doubt. He's curious and has a natural affinity with most guests on his show. Like all good interviewers, he just treats everyone like a normal human being and usually attempts to dismantle the celebrity persona in front of him, if he can. Unlike Tubs, who prefers to worship at the alter of celebrity.

    Ray D'arcy is alright for the afternoon light entertainment radio show he does, but like Tubs, should never have been let near a chat show on TV.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,290 ✭✭✭Bellbottoms


    That was certainly the rumour.

    Gave the slot to Ray. Who had a Jack Nicholson look a like on. He introduced him as if he WAS Jack Nicholson. The audiece gave him a standing ovation (I assume promted by the production team). Then they were told by "No, no. Ya know it is not really him. It is just a look a like".

    He wasn't even a professional look a like. They then spent the segment talking this random strangers life. Who he was, if he was enjoying his vacation in Ireland, etc.

    I always felt sorry for the audience, being made fools of live in air.



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 7,556 Mod ✭✭✭✭HildaOgdenx


    He's curious and has a natural affinity with most guests on his show.

    Agreed.
    It's something I have said previously about Tubridy, he has no real curiosity about people. He lived in a bubble, within the cosy confines of Montrose and his environs, with occasional forays to Clifden. That was it, really.

    Just watching Graham Norton here, a repeat, and (of course) there's no comparison. Graham is always on top of his brief, is well read and best of all, has a sense of humour. He handles the fun and the serious stuff with equal skill.

    The LLS with Tubridy lacked any spontaneity because he had to have everything so scripted. I tried to watch when he first took over but I couldn't. I can't abide D'Arcy so didn't watch the show once he replaced Brendan O'Connor.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,145 ✭✭✭CollyFlower


    I loved Brendan O'connor on Cutting Edge, he came across with a '**** you' attitude and said what he thought, he's toned down a lot since then, would have loved him on the LLS if he was able to be himself.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,321 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    You are remembering it slightly wrong.

    1st series, yes he did have that attitude.

    2nd series, he seemed to be afraid to let anyone voice any controversial opinions, as the show died a death as a result.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,285 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    He’s still suffering from that on his weekend radio show. To be fair, RTÉ were sued by the, homophobic, lunatic fringe when a guest pointed out, correctly, that they were homophobic.

    He’s been a slave to RTÉ’s, dreaded, “balance” ever since.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,933 ✭✭✭Brian Scan


    There's so much detail there that I'm now convinced that there must have been connections.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,834 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    Ithink I'd struggle to name 5 broadcasters in Ireland. Tubridy would be on that list, but it's hardly an endorsement of his celebrity.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭GSF


    the Sunday 10am to 12 midday slot on local radio is the golden oldies slot on Nursing FM as the original poster puts it 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,823 ✭✭✭yagan


    But he's not in Ireland is he?

    He might have a slot that's broadcast to Ireland, and he might pander only to an Irish audience on that slot, but he's not in Ireland.

    The fact that his show robbed hours off a golden oldies channel in Cork says a lot.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,933 ✭✭✭Brian Scan


    I'm listening at the moment. He sounds like he's having a nervous breakdown.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,050 ✭✭✭Hyperbollix


    Coming up on the 4 month mark now since he started. The novelty has worn off. The honeymoon over.…The sheer trauma of putting in 3, maybe 4 full hours in the studio, 5 days a week is starting to bite. No impromptu duvet days whenever he fancies it. No week off every couple of months. No teachers holiday schedule to luxuriate in. The only hope, the possibility of Virgin giving him the axe before year end. That would end this purgatory. But what then?

    The Toblerone addiction only a matter of time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,493 ✭✭✭tohaltuwi




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,504 ✭✭✭jmcc




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭GSF


    well he’s finally found a hook to keep people listening



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,933 ✭✭✭Brian Scan




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,933 ✭✭✭Brian Scan


    It is rather compelling, in a car-crash kind of way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,493 ✭✭✭tohaltuwi


    He sounds like he’s on speed and slurring/tripping over parts of words, swallowing audibly. I just tuned in briefly to hear what you pointed out, strange listening.

    Edit: quote function not working 🙄



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,784 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    He sounds like he’s on speed and slurring/tripping over parts of words, swallowing audibly

    This is just standard Tubridy though isnt it? unless he's gotten even worse?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,504 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Yesterday's article about Guinness and Netflix seems prescient. The stuff about the London Irish community has disappeared and the celebrity spotting has gone from A-Listers to B and C. Even the Ed Sheerhan guitar thing was sad. The flow of celebrities on which he depended for his own fame has been stemmed and the terrible realisation of the mistake he made with Bakhurst in August 2023 may be dawning on him. Don't know how much longer he can last on this egg noodles and ketchup circuit. He's probably hoping for a return to RTE or at least a slot on an Irish national broadcaster but the longer he stays on Virgin Radio, the less likely that seems.

    The the next two sets of RAJAR figures would have to be absolutely dire for Virgin Radio to drop him before the end of the year. The wildcard is that he makes a decision to quit and return to Ireland.

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,823 ✭✭✭yagan


    This whole London stint never sounded like a good idea.

    His best option was humble pie this time last year, but whether is was his own ego or his agent egging him on the whole gambit of reinvention outside of RTE hasn't gained traction. Trying to stay in the Irish public mind is doubly risky considering the RTE mismanagement debacle of which he benefitted via Barter acc payments is still very much a political hot potato.

    It can't be good on his mental state to be trying to reinflate his prominence on Irish airwaves when those who once listened to his slot on RTE haven't followed him and those slots have increased audiences since his departure.

    Paddy Kielty had his own brand beforehand and he's protecting it from the RTE payment fiasco by ensuring that his LLS fee and expenses (or lack of considering he's not claiming for flying in and out) are public knowledge from the get go. That way when his current contract is up two years from now he'll retain the option to renew, or go to the competition.

    Either way he's staying clear of blurring the line between being a name for hosting a traditional slot and being popular for the effort he puts into enhancing that slot with his own personal mark. Kielty knows that he has do a good job to protect his own brand independent of the LLS and RTE, whereas Tubridy maybe is only now realising that he has no brand other than as a RTE has been, and a notorious one at that.



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