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Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings - updated 11/5/24*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,271 ✭✭✭brickster69


    One way ferry tickets will be going through the roof now.

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,388 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl


    Do you think people should live in tents?

    The alternatives have been talked about many times, government need to start massive social housing projects for a start. And stop making housing into profit for private companies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,534 ✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    There are a load of huge houses with small familes around the country. Loads of space for people to put up refugees. 🤣🤣🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,767 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    It’ll take a long time to build houses for asylum seekers, in the short term what’s your alternative?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60 ✭✭willyvanilla


    The shock deployment of the Rwanda plan in UK, whether successful or not, has already been successful in optics. Get out of the UK while the goings good and head to Ireland via the North.

    Already saw comments of people driving across the border witnessing people walking toward the nearest towns with bags out in the countryside.

    With the good Friday agreement, the EU and brexit arrangements, it's clear that there'll be plenty of fussing but nothing will be done.

    The odds of growing shanty towns along the border in Donegal and monaghan etc just like calais in france are very likely.

    Given the history of the border already, I'd be expecting balaclavas to make a fierce comeback. That's no good thing. In fact, there isn't one good thing about any of this impending crisis.



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  • Harris speaking strongly. This could damage Anglo-Irish relations. I'm not entirely sure how we could practically implement any policies to send people back to the UK especially if they cross from the North.

    What a mess.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,783 ✭✭✭StrawbsM


    Didn’t see any checkpoint as I crossed into the north earlier. None on return trip either. I’m guessing that a majority using Northern Ireland as their was into the South would probably be wanting to go to Dublin anyway. Might not have as many checkpoints here in the North West if that’s the case.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,388 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl


    I'm not suggesting building houses just for asylum seekers, if there was no housing crisis in this country, there wouldn't be (too much) of an issue with asylum seekers. I'm the meantime, temporary structures can be used, as well as many many vacant buildings. If they increase the speed at which they decide claims, temporary accommodation would be adequate.

    Do you think people should live in tents?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,140 ✭✭✭Jizique


    Brits are loving this - works wonderfully domestically and they are reported to be starting a few Rwanda round ups this week so that news alone will puts the **** up a bunch of these "asylum seekers"

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,783 ✭✭✭StrawbsM


    And then the UK send them back to France who in turn send them to Ireland as part of the migrant pact 😂

    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,431 ✭✭✭combat14


    do you think people should be happily permitted to wilfully violate sovereign international borders time and time again without consequence

    houses are not free smartie treats to hand out as bonus prizes to all and sundry, someone aka the Irish Tax Payer has to pay for these goodies

    free houses are only for genuine cases on a temporary basis where the state has the wherewithal to provide them

    illegal migrants must be rapidly processed and deported forthwith we simply cant accommodate the millions of hard luck cases out there at this time its simply not feasible



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,877 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    There's not a hope in hell of us sending anyone back to the UK.

    If we could the UK would already be sending them back to France. Instead they've had to come up with Rwanda plan.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,109 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,588 ✭✭✭tom23


    I’ll second that ‘Oh ****’ and say we are truly donald ducked.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭jackboy


    Its worse than that. We have decided that the UK is not a safe country. The UK could not send them back to France which is a safe country. Any of them that cross the border will be solely our responsibility.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,271 ✭✭✭brickster69


    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,328 ✭✭✭bloopy


    Maybe it won't amount to anything, but I know what i'd be picking if the options were hang around and potentially end up in Rwanda, or get out of dodge as soon as possible and get into Ireland.

    I wonder if the government was notified about the change of schedule and if this is what the panicked reaction of the last few days was about.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,388 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 325 ✭✭2Greyfoxes


    Whelp, this isn't good.

    Anyone else think this is what made Leo resign? Yes the Rwanda deal has only recently passed, but it has been in the cards long enough to already impact immigration to Ireland.

    Either way, I doubt that Simon Harris is up to this monumental challenge that Ireland faces, as this is going to need a lot to resolve.

    Clever word play may win debates, but it doesn't make it true.

    Understanding and explaining things, is not the same as justifying them, if in doubt… please re-read this statement.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,388 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl


    The High Court. Due to the risk of them being sent to Rwanda.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,245 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Our courts

    Legislation is to be introduced at Cabinet on Tuesday in response to a recent High Court ruling that Ireland's designation of the UK as a "safe third country" for returning asylum seekers, in the context of the Rwanda plan, is contrary to EU law.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,271 ✭✭✭brickster69


    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,629 ✭✭✭baldbear


    People who come here without documents via the North should be housed in basic accommodation (tented accommodation) not hotels or anything fancy. They need to be deterred from coming here.

    This whole Rwanda episode is an absolute disaster for us.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60 ✭✭willyvanilla


    What is the rationale in providing even tents?

    The probability of a calais like settlement on the Irish border has just jumped significantly, the only finger lifted for these potential people should be to remove them.

    Although the probability of that is practically non-existent too, so we may as well be ready for a complete free for all. A big fat thank you to everyone who enabled this going back years, congratulations on the likely ensuing bloodshed and misery. Well done.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,388 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl


    We can't just send them to another country either, unless they are deported home.

    I suppose the government could appeal the High Court decision



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,388 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,431 ✭✭✭combat14


    the UK and then Rwanda which is safe according to the UK government



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,291 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    The English anti-immigration brigade are gleeful that asylum seekers might leave Britain and come to Ireland - check out this tweet from Farage and all the responses underneath (just a pertinent reminder to people here that the English far right are no friends of Ireland and don't give a toss about us).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,088 ✭✭✭prunudo


    Just incase anyone missed it on RTE news, there was another peaceful protest march in Newtownmountkennedy today against the ipa centre and the governments policy. Well over 2000 people attending a march orgainsed in less than 24hrs, there was no trouble, so maybe thats why rte weren't overly interested.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,074 ✭✭✭aidanodr


    So following this and also reading about same here. One thing I have not seen mentioned HERE and elsewhere is this. Not mentioned by Harris either?

    "80% of recent asylum seeker arrivals to Ireland came from the UK via Northern Ireland" ... Surely the thing here is its an EU issue because the asylum seekers who come from the UK via Northern Ireland are entering the EU? This contravenes any sort of recent EU agreements with the UK and Northern Irelands special status in the EU? Doesnt bode well does it?



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