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The Ryan Tubridy Show **Mod: Read OP**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭Hyperbollix


    Fair point. That phenomenon has played out across the world since the advent of Youtube/streaming services. As we see in US television, what were once more sober, thoughtful programmes aimed at a mature audience have now devolved into a series of clickbait segments. Those shows have an economic imperative to attract new viewers aka the internet generation.

    The Late Late show under Tubridy avoided that, partially I'm sure because the people behind the scenes believed it to be too low brow, and partly because of a big wodge of free money coming in every year in the form of the licence fee. This insulated them from worrying about having to cater for a market that might not be already tuning in.

    It makes sense really. If the internet is going to turn private media on it's head and completely re-write the rules on how you make money in the industry, there is no way the public service media and state broadcasters couldn't have been affected also.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Must be a big fall for Tubridy in going from fronting the LLS with about 300K viewers to a podcast on Youtube that only gets about 300 views a day. Would Virgin Rado/News UK fire him on one quarter's RAJAR figures if they show a major loss for the slot? Has any UK radio station done such a thing?

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Look at how streaming (legal and illegal) and Netflix destroyed the broadcast TV model for movies. It even affected Pay TV movie channels. It even forced RTE to try to adapt with its "Player" effort. RTE also started adding Player views to the broadcast views for some programmes like the LLS. RTE should have dropped him from the LLS as soon as he started to lose viewers. Commerical radio seems to be far more results driven than the mediocre RTE management and News UK is more ruthless than most in that respect.

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,334 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    When Pat Kenny left RTÉ my mam was getting her bathroom renovated by a neighbour. Really nice family really down to earth. They don't change they are very regimented, all highly successful children, always think their regimented no change lifestyle had much to do with it. Everyday for the renovation the builder would come sit in the kitchen and Mam would have Radio 1 on, over the years she might swap to hear what Gerry Ryan might say and when Today FM first started she might switch to see who's on, late nights over the years was always the late night call in shows, but largely it was Radio 1, like many other women of her age and generation. So on one of the afternoons as they were having lunch with the builder Mam switched over to Pat Kenny.

    The builder was surprised to hear him on the radio, the family were never going to turn that dial, the regiment consisted of Ireland AM in the morning followed by This Morning and then on to Liveline and I doubt that will ever change. But Pat hasn't really crossed their mind since he left Radio 1.

    I imagine many have largely moved on from Tubs, he'll slowly drift and to be honest if he can come back in 5 years to the public eye it will be like he never left, however after that most will have forgotten him and I doubt many will remember his time as presenter of TLLS, or care, though this could be said of his successor as well. For many Pat Kenny is part of nostalgia at this point and not much more, but sure he's making a buck so who really cares.


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,441 ✭✭✭Bellbottoms


    I appreciate what you are saying. That RTE didn't go down the commerical click bait route with the show as a result of the licence fee.

    Which is great. That is why we are supposed to have a public brodcaster.

    My issue is that having Dermot Bannon or one of the Brennan Brothers on every other week is not public service broadcasting. It is RTE airing a sub standard product because of its brand.

    The Tommy Tiernan Show or Nationwide are probably better examples of public service broadcasting.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,877 ✭✭✭yagan


    The problem for Tubs though is the Barter acc backhander won't be forgotten by those who did take a cut.

    It took over 8 months to secure a disc jockey seat in London with a Paddy Power sponsorship sweetener.

    Dee Forbes is still at large and TV license inspectors say their job has become impossible. You can be jailed for refusing to have a TV license but not for misdirecting funds at the national TV station. We're still very much in the fall out zone and this government is very much coasting to the next election so a change of government will have an easy target to get the public on board by zoning back in on the Barter acc payments.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,441 ✭✭✭Bellbottoms


    I have yet to listen to the Bookmans video podcast. But I do have more questions.

    1. What books did Ms Ahern chose, and why?
    2. How is the podcast structured. Is it a light magazine show with books as a jumping off point. Or is it a proper exploration of the books. An analysis of the text, themes, how the have effected the guest etc.

    Basically is it "I like how Lee Childs writes tight minimilist sentences. It is reminisicent of Hemmingways use of language. Which is an intregiguing juxstaposition to the pulpy repetitive nature of Childs novels" Or is it "I like Of Mice and Men cause it" "reminds me of my time at school", "that time I was in California" or "Sure everyone knows a Lenny and George".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,334 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    And I'd argue that RTÉ are playing down much of the discontent that the audience have with the broadcaster.

    Also those same people are really put out by what has happened in RTÉ.

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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,439 ✭✭✭Morgans


    It is barely B. At least you'd pick up the characters names.

    I see you like the Jason Bourne series of books. I LOOOVE the films. Yeah, me too. Matt Damon is great. Wouldn't it be great to go for a swim in the forty-foot today, with a bag of cans? I LOOOOVEE Matt Damon. Such a cool guy. Did you ever go knacker-drinking when you were younger?

    Have you read the books Ryan? Yeah, No. Its a great escape, and they aren't too long. I LOOOOOOVE getting lost in a good book. It so evocative. Brings back so many memories. You should all give it a go. If you don't think that you can do it, just do it. You are never without a friend if you have a book.

    But have you read the book Ryan??



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,188 Mod ✭✭✭✭HildaOgdenx


    I got an email recently from Easons which included mention of the podcast. I presume these were the books CA chose, and that her own book is included to show that she is the guest.

    I won't be listening, so that's all I know.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,441 ✭✭✭Bellbottoms


    Jesus, that sounds awful. It sounds like being back in school when the english teach asks you a specific question about the chapter your were supposed to read last night. But didn't bother because you had training.

    Is it really like that. Any thing but talking about the book.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,439 ✭✭✭Morgans


    You'd presume wrong. Cecilia chose P.S. I love you as the book that changed her life. The last book is a Ryan Recommends of two dubs who are somehow in ancient greece/rome (not sure) but it was clear from the description that Ryan was reading the dust jacket in his recommendation - just as Alan did in Mid Morning Matters when arguing with a caller about Wolf Hall.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,441 ✭✭✭Bellbottoms


    Awh that is a bit cheeky picking one of your own books. It is just a cop out. You are not really engaging with the format.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,188 Mod ✭✭✭✭HildaOgdenx


    The problem for Tubs though is the Barter acc backhander won't be forgotten by those who did take a cut.

    Very true.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,877 ✭✭✭yagan


    I'm actually reading the Glorious Exploits book, but I heard about it by an online review months ago. It's enjoyable, it's jocular in the manner TV series Plebs, which it has to be considering the setting of the plot around Athenian warriors being starved to death in the quarries of Syracuse.

    I'd recommend it to anyone fond of a read set in antiquity.

    Edit to add, I wouldn't describe the two main characters as Dubs in ancient Greece, they sound more English working class, but some might argue that in essence that can be the same thing.

    The writer has been living in England for years and its English phrasing I was picking up from the dialogue.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,877 ✭✭✭yagan


    She probably didn't put much into her appearance on his new vehicle, probably more a personal payback for any appearances she had on his shows before the whole Barter acc thing blew up.

    She can feel that any obligation felt has been fulfilled, job done, move on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,439 ✭✭✭Morgans


    Christ I love this programme. For some reason I cant get it play from 11m40s. The howl at the end is just perfect. Alan thinking it has to do with wolves.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,334 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    I have chosen P.S. I Love You as I came from humble begins, my father didn't even have a bank account, but he had good friends who would do a whip round for him when times were tough, I was lucky also because my sister was with a lad from a band and they really struggled also, so it was great to be able to get a book published to help out my family.


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,188 Mod ✭✭✭✭HildaOgdenx




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭fplfan12345


    Would they have your details at your consent ?

    Or are they spamming the nation ?

    Is there an email address to let them know that they are funding irelands most hated man and will likely lose customers on the back of it ?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,413 ✭✭✭fplfan12345


    It’s time to @ all these people on Twitter that are appearing on his podcast and ask them, publicly, why they are openly supporting a man that robbed from the nation of Ireland.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Don't think that it would be spamming the nation as it is a reputable company. It has, however, done something far worse: it has sponsored Tubridy. :)

    Regards…jmcc



  • Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    "Cecilia chose P.S. I love you as the book that changed her life"

    Seriously, whatever credibility his podcast has, allowing an author to quote their own book as the book that changed their life suggests 1) a bizarre lack of understanding on behalf of CS as to what the question means and 2) a more bizarre lack of editorial cop on for not telling her "eh no, that's not what's meant by the question".

    I haven't heard this podcast so going on what I've heard here.

    But a google of the book that "changed her life" shows this on HER website, so I'm confused as to why this wasn't the answer:

    "The Book That Changed My Life
    The Celestine Prophecy by James Redfield

    To say it changed my life is an exageration but it certainly impacted my way of thinking which is no small thing. It was given to me during a time of great change in my life, by a friend who read it during a period of change in her life. I was twenty one years old, I’d just got my first book deal for PS I Love You and was overwhelmed by the speed and magnitude of change in my life. Not only did it teach me new philosophies but it reinforced beliefs and behaviour I’ve had since a child which explained life in a way I had never heard others speak about. I suppose it put a lot of my private feelings into words. From synchronicity to energies, it opened my eyes to the universe.x

    Or this:

    https://www.readersdigest.co.uk/culture/books/meet-the-author/cecelia-ahern-books-that-changed-my-life

    As I say , I haven't heard the podcast (thank God) so perhaps I'm missing something)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,439 ✭✭✭Morgans


    28m00s on for confirmation and a bit of Ryan's "books can move you" patter. Dont want to bog down the thread with long videos so link below.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfyWpBhyHCw&list=PLFw0yeD_1l3D-7_DD-3D0bzw06oVhuAIG



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,188 Mod ✭✭✭✭HildaOgdenx


    Yes, very peculiar and seemed like it was missing the point, for her to pick her own book, imo.

    I noticed when I was in Easons a few weeks back that the books David Walliams had chosen were on a display with some reference of course to Tubridy. I presume they will add the choices of the other authors as the podcast goes on.

    I won't be listening anyway and I don't read Cecilia Ahern's books, but I know she has had enormous success. So it's not as if her own book needed that publicity. 🤷‍♀️



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,589 ✭✭✭hawley


    I don't think that there's going to be any great rush from successful authors to get on his podcast. The number of views on YouTube are miniscule. I watched some of the first podcast and I thought that it was very poor. Don't know who it's actually meant to appeal to. He would have been better off focusing on new books and up and coming authors, but that would involve actual work.

    Communication was the greatest fatality



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,188 Mod ✭✭✭✭HildaOgdenx


    I don't think that there's going to be any great rush from successful authors to get on his podcast.

    I agree. I suppose he and his agent have enough contacts to get a few well known authors on board.
    He definitely won't go down the route of anything except those who are already well established and successful.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭jmcc


    The authors so far are published by HarperCollins. HarperCollins is owned by News Corp. Virgin Radio is owned by News UK. Let's see if a pattern emerges. The books seem well aimed at Tubridy's demographic (possibly apart from the Philip Larkin one). This is all about shifting books and the books promoted are fast sellers.

    Would Tubridy have the pulling power to get famous authors from other publishers not a book tour? Let's wait and see.

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,877 ✭✭✭yagan


    Honing in on the bookman persona it could be seen as an act of defense against the reality of internet age. Books don't speak back, unlike the voltage laden internet that removes all distance between those who use it, it spares no one, unless they turn off the comments on their Youtube submissions.

    Despite Tubridy's need the internet won't let the past be shut and put on a shelf to collect dust. To quote Eric Hoffer, "The future belongs to learners, whilst the learnéd find themselves perfectly prepared for a world that no longer exists".

    To expand on the above, for communications the internet is now the highstreet, and one way broadcasting is the legacy. By not engaging with the Barter acc business he only draws more attention to it, especially if he does find a broadcasting seat on NursinghomeFM.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,334 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    1. Not technically but morally there is an issue
    2. So why do these @ people support him on Twitter / Instagram etc (Have to say I have not noticed either supporter or non-support of Tubs, save for your good self). - Sorry read the original post.

    @ - ing people on these site serves little purpose TBH. I recently took at look at some tweets from yester-year at how positive Dee Forbes was for RTÉ… same people seem very quite now. Ah well such is life.


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



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