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  • #20102
    Anto_Meath
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,718 ✭✭✭Anto_Meath


    I was around Drogheda today.. the amount of ploughs & tillage equipment on the roads was unreal.. some pressure on them boys to get stuff in the ground at the minute.



  • #20103
    enricoh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,592 ✭✭✭enricoh


    Very good program on tg4 there on the fishing industry.

    Talk about been thrown under the bus by politicians during Brexit negotiations. The lads tied up in port with no quota while Spanish ships land beside them and can't fill their quota!



  • #20104
    148multi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,334 ✭✭✭148multi


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122059600#Comment_122059600

    They got thrown under the bus a few times, when Ray mcsharry negotiated the cap, the fishermen paid a heavy price.



  • #20105
    kevthegaff
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122059639#Comment_122059639

    Maybe wer next



  • #20106
    green daries
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,051 ✭✭✭green daries


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122059663#Comment_122059663

    We have been thrown under the bus already



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  • #20107
    Base price
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,818 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122059639#Comment_122059639

    Our fishing industry got thrown under the bus in 1973 when we joined the EEC in favour of agriculture. They have been continually thrown under the bus in every negotiation of CFP since.



  • #20108
    green daries
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,051 ✭✭✭green daries


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122059810#Comment_122059810

    I would agree with that wholeheartedly base



  • #20109
    Castlekeeper
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,445 ✭✭✭Castlekeeper


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122055355#Comment_122055355

    That's all news to me...

    I'm not sure whether you'd be agreeing or disagreeing with me tbh as every post you make has a bit if both as well as not even getting the simple original point.

    To put it this way, if, hypothetically, there had been an Irish empire, should all coloured people within be/have been expected to be comfortable with and accepting of the phrase "daoine gorma" (excluding smurfs)?

    Maybe you'd be as well off to keep your digging for the garden, my British Queens are up since.

    “We are all capable of believing things which we know to be untrue, and then, when we are finally proved wrong, impudently twisting the facts so as to show that we were right. Intellectually, it is possible to carry on this process for an indefinite time: the only check on it is that sooner or later a false belief bumps up against solid reality.” George Orwell.



  • #20110
    Suckler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,534 ✭✭✭Suckler


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122060804#Comment_122060804

    Whats all news to you? That we are and have been inextricably linked to the UK for generations and share a boarder with them?

    I'll remind you that this started with other posters visiting England regularly & even choosing to do so over Ireland due to costs….are they also 'Uncle Toms' or some sort of traitors?

    Geographic references aren't linked to political status and your frailty around 'empires'.

    The archipelago was referred to as The British Isles long before any empires were built.

    You saw fit to go the Uncle Tom route. But keep digging.

    Post edited by Suckler on


  • #20111
    Odelay
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,032 ✭✭✭Odelay


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122060804#Comment_122060804

    It’s a geographical term like it or not. There are millions of people born in the americas, that doesn’t make them American.



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  • #20112
    Lime Tree Farm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,212 ✭✭✭Lime Tree Farm


    Giod news. Boards.ie Vanilla were true to their word regarding the update at 7pm, an effective "search feature" is working.



  • #20113
    _Brian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,347 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122061264#Comment_122061264

    In the same way that history is written by the victors, much of the mapping was conducted on a colonial basis.. Using the term "british isles" to referr to Ireland is indeed a hark back to our colonial repression under the british..



  • #20114
    Castlekeeper
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,445 ✭✭✭Castlekeeper


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122061212#Comment_122061212
    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122061264#Comment_122061264

    An old Italian saying goes something like "Washing a donkeys head is a waste of water", it seems apt here.

    I'll leave my last word to the position of our government on the term, which is good enough for me;

    Screenshot_20240425-110202_Ecosia.jpg

    Maybe ye can found a political party or candidates to get involved with for the upcoming elections that might help you promote your viewpoint of Ireland's place in the world.

    “We are all capable of believing things which we know to be untrue, and then, when we are finally proved wrong, impudently twisting the facts so as to show that we were right. Intellectually, it is possible to carry on this process for an indefinite time: the only check on it is that sooner or later a false belief bumps up against solid reality.” George Orwell.



  • #20115
    Suckler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,534 ✭✭✭Suckler


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122063398#Comment_122063398

    it isn’t. The term was established long before any British rule.



  • #20116
    Suckler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,534 ✭✭✭Suckler


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122063473#Comment_122063473

    Still digging.

    If I were to go around telling people around the world about “these islands” you think they’d recognise that term?
    It’s applicable in reference to Northern Ireland due to political delicacies in writing the Good Friday agreement. That’s where it ends in reality.



  • #20117
    Lime Tree Farm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,212 ✭✭✭Lime Tree Farm


    This is hilariously funny - I googled Atlantic archipelago and got the attached.

    20240425_212753.jpg


  • #20118
    Siamsa Sessions
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 4,691 Mod ✭✭✭✭Siamsa Sessions


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122063495#Comment_122063495

    You’ve hit the nail on the head. When talking among people who live on these islands and have skin in the game, “these islands” is apt. But if you want to simplify the geographic location for those who’ve never heard of Ireland on your international travels, then feel free to say Ireland is a little island to the west of Britain and therefore part of the British Isles.



  • #20119
    Suckler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,534 ✭✭✭Suckler


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122063987#Comment_122063987

    All I’d wanted to say it should be easier for citizens of Ireland/Northern Ireland/Isle of Man/Wales/Scotland to fly between those countries!



  • #20120
    kollegeknight
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,397 ✭✭✭kollegeknight


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122059600#Comment_122059600

    what was it called- I must show it to some of my students.

    Both their parents and I are trying to get them to at least have a back up plan if anything happened the fishing industry.

    They don’t even have value in the leaving because fishing will always be profitable.



  • #20121
    Siamsa Sessions
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 4,691 Mod ✭✭✭✭Siamsa Sessions


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122064503#Comment_122064503

    And yet here we are!

    It’s mad the rabbit holes we go down and how discussions meander on here 😂



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  • #20122
    Castlekeeper
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,445 ✭✭✭Castlekeeper


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122063987#Comment_122063987

    That sounds more like the Isle of Man. Why not say that Ireland is an island on the west of Europe?

    I would say the use of "these islands" was a necessary fudge at the time, (obviously not an everyday term). I just showed it as one example to show the term British Isles is recognised as an obsolete and inappropriate term for Ireland and Irish people.

    “We are all capable of believing things which we know to be untrue, and then, when we are finally proved wrong, impudently twisting the facts so as to show that we were right. Intellectually, it is possible to carry on this process for an indefinite time: the only check on it is that sooner or later a false belief bumps up against solid reality.” George Orwell.



  • #20123
    Castlekeeper
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,445 ✭✭✭Castlekeeper


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122064503#Comment_122064503

    When in fact the opposite is the case if there is to be any hope of a manageable degree of climate change.

    If we can't transition towards a functioning sustainable transport system within these (little) islands (!) without aviation except for exceptional needs, the goose is cooked.

    “We are all capable of believing things which we know to be untrue, and then, when we are finally proved wrong, impudently twisting the facts so as to show that we were right. Intellectually, it is possible to carry on this process for an indefinite time: the only check on it is that sooner or later a false belief bumps up against solid reality.” George Orwell.



  • #20124
    Say my name
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,734 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    I object to use of the word Ireland to name this country.

    Why should it be used when it's the Sasanachy's name for Eire. Eire is our original title as gaelige.

    Eire became Eirelonde in the 16th century and then became Ireland.

    However British pathe used the title Eire in their broadcasts and reels in the 1900's after independence to not cause offence and some eire people took offence with this and thought it should be Ireland.



  • #20125
    Say my name
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,734 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Most refer to these lands as Britain and Ireland not the British Isles or "these islands" as used in a specific document. Anyway.



  • #20126
    Suckler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,534 ✭✭✭Suckler


    Doesn’t the added tax not magic away the bad stuff and solve the problem?



  • #20127
    enricoh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,592 ✭✭✭enricoh


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122064594#Comment_122064594

    I forget tbh, was on from 9.30-10.30 wednesday night.

    Don't think I'd be recommending any of mine to go into it tbh. If we sent Dustin the turkey to the quota negotiations he'd have come back with a better deal for Irish boats!



  • #20128
    whelan2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,287 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    One of the kids needed a new bike, old one needs a lot of work. Saw an ad on donedeal €50 for a good sturdy bike locally. Was an old man who does bikes up in his spare time. A new bike would be alot more and in a couple of years wont be used anymore. He was saying alot of kids now can't ride a bike, never thought how to



  • #20129
    kollegeknight
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,397 ✭✭✭kollegeknight


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122066739#Comment_122066739

    I’ve a Ukrainian student who’s at that at the moment- always fixing something and solving problems.



  • #20130
    Base price
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,818 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    I see that Glanbia/Tirlan and Aldi are not going to be at the ploughing championships this year. I haven't been to the ploughing for the last 8 years and I doubt I missed much.

    https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/tirlan-will-not-have-an-exhibit-at-2024-ploughing-championships/


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  • #20131
    Say my name
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,734 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Pissing off their stand holders.

    Dinosaur event now.

    Took an event built it up. Then killed it off.



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