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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,404 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,154 ✭✭✭roosterman71


    Done the same. Slowest part of the day is waiting around the airport in Dublin to get there. 45 minute flight over, few minutes on the tram to the show and same on the way home.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,534 ✭✭✭Suckler


    What we are missing here is the convenience of internal flights that you get in bigger countries. Takes so much hassle and time wasting out of it. There should be some way of internalising flights within the British isles to make it like taking a bus.

    Anytime we go to England I go out of my way to justify ferry and driving.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,738 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Would you see it in one day or would two days be too much for it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭wrangler




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,154 ✭✭✭roosterman71


    Ya'd see it one if ya didn't dilly dally. Last few times we stayed over and seen less of the show as we'd walk along, get thirsty and duck in for refreshments. It's smaller than the ploughing, not as busy and more room to maneuver between stands



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,368 ✭✭✭Sheep breeder


    Being to the show twice, a great family day out and an easy pace to get a round. The flights this year were very pricey earlier in the year and entrance price gone up. Great show for livestock and will do Balmoral instead.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,446 ✭✭✭Castlekeeper


    I think that particular colonial empirical phrase was officially updated to "these islands" about 25 years ago.

    I know it's still commonly used but it always grates on my ear.

    “We are all capable of believing things which we know to be untrue, and then, when we are finally proved wrong, impudently twisting the facts so as to show that we were right. Intellectually, it is possible to carry on this process for an indefinite time: the only check on it is that sooner or later a false belief bumps up against solid reality.” George Orwell.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,713 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Dealt with an English sales guy once, who would talk about "going back to the mainland" when he was in Ireland. Used to drive one of the lads in the office mad.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,480 ✭✭✭kk.man


    Only seeing this now...try Kavanagh meats enniscorthy they want aa.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,818 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    My first proper paid employment (many years ago) was working in a transport company. The transport manager was from Cheshire in the UK. He always referred to the UK as the mainland which boiled my blood every time he said it. I tried on several occasions to explain why it annoyed me but you may have well been talking to the wall - thick uneducated fucker.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,290 ✭✭✭✭whelan2




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,195 ✭✭✭straight


    I was there and there was alot of comments about the judging. Small world. I wouldn't be putting down a young lad myself.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,738 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Myself and my father we had missed all the shows during the year and for the novelty said we'd go to Virginia show. We went up and a relation from Wexford was judging the limousins. We were all surprised we saw each other there.

    It's the outsiders they want to judge the classes to eliminate the clique judging. Some get very annoyed by that.

    Post edited by Say my name on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,195 ✭✭✭straight




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,438 ✭✭✭Kevhog1988


    Work with a lad who does that currently to a room full of irish ppl... surprised nobody has lit on him yet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,534 ✭✭✭Suckler


    "British Isles" was a term first written/described hundreds of years before any colonial empires.

    "These islands" sounds ridiculous.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,446 ✭✭✭Castlekeeper


    Not my point but either way that doesn't mean it was correct then either. Whatever about more recent times, "Ireland" certainly wasn't populated or governed by Britons then.

    In the intervening time period, due to development of the British Empire, the implications of the word "British" has evolved, (this happens all the time with language, eg "gay").

    The term "these islands" was agreed upon in the Belfast/ GoodFriday Agreement as a usable alternative for their purposes, but obviously, its not geographical.

    Britain and Ireland is fine.

    “We are all capable of believing things which we know to be untrue, and then, when we are finally proved wrong, impudently twisting the facts so as to show that we were right. Intellectually, it is possible to carry on this process for an indefinite time: the only check on it is that sooner or later a false belief bumps up against solid reality.” George Orwell.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,212 ✭✭✭Lime Tree Farm


    Hearing "what it says in the paper" on "morning ireland" 7 am, a few weeks back, he referred to the flag as tricolor, on the later 8am he corrected it to tri-colour. Wondered who gave him the rap on the knuckles in the meantime.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,818 ✭✭✭✭Base price




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,290 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Just reading there about the inquest into the death of the girl in limerick hospital. Lovely looking girl with her whole life cut short by her treatment in a and e. Her poor family



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,480 ✭✭✭kk.man


    I know and to think we are supposed to live in a modern western society. Hospitals in Ireland could now be classified as dangerous places.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,713 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    A few years back, we had a relative sick in University Hospital Limerick. She got unbelievable care there from her main consultant. Did everything she could for her. Updated us all on a daily basis. Towards the end of her care, the consultant said, in a quiet tone that she was trying to get her into "St. Johns Hospital" in Limerick "for her own sake".

    I don't know what's wrong in UHL exactly, but it ain't the fault of the doctors & nurses working there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,534 ✭✭✭Suckler


    It has nothing to do with being governed or populated by Britons. It's a geographical term for the archipelago we find ourselves part of irrespective of politics; e.g. 'The America's' or 'The West Indies'.

    'These island's' works when discussing the intricacies and sentiments of NI. Otherwise 'these islands' is a nonsensical statement when referring to geography. We can't get annoyed about labels like 'British isles' whilst also relying on them so much in other ways.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,368 ✭✭✭Sheep breeder


    Agree happening it most breeds of cattle and sheep, judging faces and not the stock on the merry go round, has put a lot of people off showing at local shows around the country, you give me the rosette at my local show and I return the favour at your local. The price in the ring shows these lads up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,290 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    An elderly pedigree breeder was talking to my lad before he set off to the show, he said pick what you like, you're the judge, it's what you like. In each class he picked 5 he liked and let the rest out. He's not a fan of the overfed type that will melt when you get them home.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,717 ✭✭✭Limestone Cowboy


    It's a thankless job, always going to be more people unhappy with the decision than happy after it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,446 ✭✭✭Castlekeeper


    I suppose it depends on your viewpoint, there are debates in the politics forum on this subject. The bit about the west indies would be funny if you were being ironic, in a David Brent sort of way, but unfortunately...

    As for linking it to our social and political relationships with the UK? Now that's stretching it a bit, almost Uncle Tom stuff.

    “We are all capable of believing things which we know to be untrue, and then, when we are finally proved wrong, impudently twisting the facts so as to show that we were right. Intellectually, it is possible to carry on this process for an indefinite time: the only check on it is that sooner or later a false belief bumps up against solid reality.” George Orwell.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,446 ✭✭✭Castlekeeper


    That's a great honour and he wouldn't have been asked if his opinion wasn't valued. It'd be no harm if many more took the same approach to judging working animals.

    “We are all capable of believing things which we know to be untrue, and then, when we are finally proved wrong, impudently twisting the facts so as to show that we were right. Intellectually, it is possible to carry on this process for an indefinite time: the only check on it is that sooner or later a false belief bumps up against solid reality.” George Orwell.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,534 ✭✭✭Suckler


    ”Uncle Tom” stuff from the phrase ‘British Isles’ as a clearly geographic reference…Now that’s a new level of pathetic.

    How exactly are we not linked politically and socially?
    They’re our largest import market. We share a common border, we’ve a deeply shared interest in Northern Ireland, we’ve just recently committed close to €1billion for a NI. When Russia cruises over our skies who do we rely on to catch up with them? We’ve generations that have used the UK when Ireland failed to provide any future for them and who were happy to collect the queens pension even when they moved “home”. We consume British culture more than our own in a lot of instances - sports, music, television etc.

    To be clear, again, I didn’t link it to our social and political relationship….its a geographical term set aside from any political frailty on your part.



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