Republic of Ireland Team 2023/24 [old thread]

I’m saying he or whoever it is should be offered it in June, or just before it, someone should be offered it in June and should get the two games in June to work with the squad.

To leave it until after the Euros as some are suggesting, until the end of the summer basically, hoping for a miracle that some quality manager is suddenly going to be interested in a job that pays around €500k a year; that would be taking a ridiculous gamble.

toys out of a pram? So the goal is to get relegated now is it? Delay appointment in preparation for the Autumn Nations League games because it’s better to be relegated. LOL. Nonsense.

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You don’t think we could appoint anyone worse? I think the last appointment was probably worse, and leaving him there till the bitter end even worse again.

Maybe we should appoint O’Shea because it might help to get us relegated out of our current Nations League division, which would be a good thing as another poster there suggested?

I think we'd be hard pressed to find a serious option who is worse, yeah. Like, he is only being considered because of his playing days, he should be way further down the pecking order even in relation to other inexperienced assistant managers. In his club coaching gigs, he's never even been the 'right hand guy', he's always just been an extra body on the coaching staff in unsuccessful teams. Which is fine at this stage of his career - he's only a baby in the coaching world yet, plenty of time for him to develop. But imo it's just waaaay too soon for him to be considered for a job like this.

If we were going for someone that inexperienced, i think they at least need to have coached some U21 reserve sides or something, so they've at least a bit of a feel for making changes in game - probably the most important aspect of the job, and something O'Shea looked particularly poor at in those two friendlies. As mentioned, even Paddy McCarthy is far more experienced and far more highly rated, I'd have him in the job far quicker than O'Shea.

It was good to give O'Shea the few friendlies for a bit of experience and exposure, but he needs to go off and learn his trade with a bigger team's U21's, or a ~League One level first team now.

Bad news for Bazunu as he picked up an achilles injury in the warm up tonight.

I’m going to finish up with this for now until something actually happens with this because there are several posters on here going around in circles and some of them “thanking” each other for going around in circles for months.

O’Shea is in the conversation because nearly all of the other names you mentioned in your comment quoted have either been ruled out by the FAI or have ruled themselves out or are regarded as too expensive. Keane, too expensive. Duff has ruled himself out after initially being ignored by the looks of it. Lennon and Coleman apparently ruled out by the FAI. Houghton was never mentioned, maybe you meant Hughton? Steven Reid also never mentioned IIRC.

O’Shea is the only one standing right now for various reasons and that’s why he’s in “the conversation” whether you like it or not.

Waiting until the end of summer for a credible candidate to suddenly appear interested in a gig that pays around €500k a year and delay until then to make a call on this will not help matters in my opinion, it will make it worse if anything.

Looking at the last WC and the Euros, roughly a third of all managers left their jobs one way or another within a month of those tournaments.

Then you have the batch of club managers who will leave their teams at the end of the season.

With a bit of patience, more options could soon become available. They might not be any good or they might not be interested and we could very well end up with JOS in the end, so be it. However, there is no real urgency to get someone in right now. Why rush into a decision just because?

If there's no manager by August, I'd be concerned.

I should actually commend the FAI. Whether by choice or financial restriction, they aren't rushing in to an appointment. If the story about Poyet's son is true, at least they are showing a bit of backbone. If they are also insisting on a manager who is more involved as opposed to just the senior team then that's also to be commended if they're sticking to those conditions.

Again, who knows if its because of the budget forced on them or by design but it is a good sign despite them making a mess of it in terms of communication.

Guaranteed there are plenty of spoofers about happy for a payday, whatever the amount, and it'd save the FAI a lot of hassle to just get them in and get on with it.

It’ll probably be the new England managers first game too.

Re the August comment.

We had 4 friendlies between Kenny's departure and our next competitive game (v England).

Was there not a value in having a new manager ready to hit the ground running in the Nations League ?

I feel there is/was. In fact, the FAI's initial self-declared timeline was to have a manager in place by March for the Belgium and Switzerland friendlies.

A manager doesn't just turn up on the day and start coaching the team! If it's a manager that isn'tfamiliar with all Irish players it's going to take time to look at them, speak to them etc.

If we wait, then that is grand but its means new manager is at a disadvantage straight away

Agree with this; probably best to have an interim for a few months, then hopefully have a permenant replacement that's up to the task for a number of years.

I think Robbie has some history with the FAI.

I would have agreed with you re the 250k a year, but was very surpirsed at the amount of people defending him on this thread in the last few weeks; 'it was the FAI's error, not Robbie's, so he was right to take the money'.