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Referendum on Gender Equality (THREADBANS IN OP)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,451 ✭✭✭eeepaulo



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    I went back as far as 2000, here are the turnout figures, avg turnout 49% so slightly down if its 45%

    Who wants to play a drinking game with misinformation and disinformation, we'll be drunk by 1



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 393 ✭✭KevMayo88


    I watched the coverage on RTE there- for about the 15 minutes I had it on, I literally think I heard the word "confusion" 8-10 times. No "confusion" if things were reversed, of course.



  • Posts: 3,330 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Ha that is brilliant! Hard to blame a minority far right for 90%+ No vote



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,265 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    This whole farce was an underhand way to seek votes and distract from the much bigger issues and it has backfired spectacularly



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 226 ✭✭tarvis


    Whoever thought of the ‘international women’s day’ stunt needs to think again- deleting woman in the home from the constitution because it is an archaic idea ?

    *when women are still the ones having the babies.

    *Women are still the ones doing the bulk of the child rearing, be they parent or child minder-

    And when many many grandmothers are supporting young families by surrendering their retirement on childcare -

    and finally insult on top of injury - when many women ( and men) are saving the state €billions by minding those in need of full time care in their homes for years and years - while care facilities are closing down or being handed over to for profit entities -

    archaic / Old fashioned ? or current and continuing reality for many many women.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    McEntee is an absolute disgrace in her excuses. The people saw through these proposed wordings as vague and undesirable.

    She should have the good grace to just admit they got it wrong.



  • Posts: 3,330 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    And putting it on a Friday and closing the vast majority of schools around the country, putting difficulty on parents to get childcare or else having to take a day off work, for an idiotic referendum.

    When will we cop on and have elections/Referendums on a weekend, or use churches and GAA clubs to host the polling stations.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,531 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    It's a tough day to be woke and realising you live in a far right hellhole I tell you



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 393 ✭✭KevMayo88




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,433 ✭✭✭SaoPaulo41


    Her debate on tonight show is why I went from potentially abstaining to maybe voting Yes to completely changing to no no



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,435 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Will Sinn Fein come out now and say that's the end of the Citizens Assembly. They are supposed to be the Opposition.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 393 ✭✭KevMayo88


    Going on a televised debate against the intellectual powerhouse that is Michael McDowell with that blank, gormless expression on your face and regurgitating the same sentimental tripe over and over was never going to win votes. At least though she did a TV debate, unlike Rodders who went to ground for the whole campaign.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,090 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    If that was through it will br a very busy time in the office as the women will be at home in the kitchens.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,090 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    I wonder will RTE have them on or will it just be all the yes yes people



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 393 ✭✭KevMayo88


    You can always emigrate buddy- how about you go live in Iran, or Saudi Arabia, or a multitude of other really progressive middle-eastern countries? I'm sure their constitutions wouldn't be as sexist as ours!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,161 ✭✭✭ParkRunner


    She’ll be calling the Irish voter sc*mbags I expect



  • Posts: 3,330 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    With her main argument being "won't somebody think of the children".

    Useless debate by a useless politician.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,531 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,435 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Neale Richmond dropped the bombshell last December on Virgin Media. Probably a factor in why the referendum was lost.

    It might finally put manners on him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    What now for those who run the Womens Council? Let them resign.

    How could they be so out of touch with Mná na hEireann??



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,536 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    As many of us have been saying on here for some time, this Government, our political class, our media and our Feminists are completely out of step with the ordinary people of this country....it's like when the Catholic Church lost their cultural authority in this country in the 80s/90s....except if possible and probably as a result of social media, this generation of ideological "progressives" are even more arrogant, more narcissistic than the Bishops/clergy were, this is just one electoral defeat, but the first of many!!!

    In a normal country there would be resignations left right and centre after a debacle like this...a country in crisis at almost every level of society and our "betters" thought this was the issue that needed attention, but this is Ireland, expect to see a step up in the clamp down of free speech, the silencing of alternate views, the dialing up of hateful rhetoric from our political class who are simply too dumb to understand what is happening!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,451 ✭✭✭almostover


    Twas like sending Accrington Stanley out against Man City. An incapable TD who's only in their seat due to Nepotism vs. A former Attorney General.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,451 ✭✭✭almostover


    I personally dislike Toibin and disagree with many of his opinions. However, Michael McDowell is a very capable person who we could do with being back in government. Sensible, logical and knows his brief.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31 CoastalCork


    Ff .fg ,sinn fein .social democrats, and labour' vote for Guillotine of Bill refusing a dail Debate

    Ff voter hear voting Aontu going forward.

    Thanks Peadar Tobin

    Thanks Michael McDowell



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,451 ✭✭✭almostover




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,347 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    A few things.

    There were not exit polls as exit polls are paid for (usually) by media outlets. Wasn't enough interest in this referendum to justify that cost from the media outlets.

    I spoke to a good few people on this over the past few weeks. Almost all, bar a couple who might have split the vote with a Yes/No were voting no. Rational varied from "What's the actual -Real World- outcome - how might it effect me?" "Im not convinced by the Yes side that a. There won't eb any negative outcomes, b.that this change will actually mean anything. "I don't know enough about this to change things". "Fcuk the politicians, Distraction tactics, better ways to spend money, far more important things to do"

    These all weren't boards males in their mid life crisis years either. They were men, women from different backgrounds mostly between 30 and 80.

    The yes side need to be careful how the frame the rationale for a loss. Blaming "bogey men" wont help them in the medium term.

    Worrying thing for me is that the support for yes was almost across the board party wise. No party willing to state the obvious.

    Next was the governments lack of willingness to listen to the citizens assembly OR atorney general OR share this information with people transparantly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31 CoastalCork


    And Maie Stein

    Next stop Mcentees hate speech bulls...t



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,276 ✭✭✭dmakc




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,681 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



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