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Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,617 ✭✭✭jmcc


    According to the Irish Times, Forbes and Jennings are to be given the option to appear before the media committee virtually or to provide written answers to a set of questions from the committee.

    Regards...jmcc

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    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    the committee could supply one of those head strap devices that Christy Brown used for his typewriter

    One letter at a time but hopefully Dee would have the strength to tap out a statement on her laptop



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,860 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Did the former commercial director Geraldine O'Leary get a golden handshake? She was definitely up to no good with the taxpayer's money and the barter accounts. She seemed to get away quietly from the committees.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,834 ✭✭✭Pa ElGrande


    There is a fundamental problem, RTE exists to be served by the public rather that being a "public service" broadcaster. It's not the 1930s anymore, that old model of a single centralised one to many broadcaster has become distributed across many outlets, and we are no longer isolated being completely plugged into the United States and UK both culturally and economically. National print media in Ireland simply takes content from other parts of the Anglosphere and rehashes it with local color added. Why does what happens to an American politician with no connections to Ireland even warrant coverage in Irish media, we can't vote in American elections, yet every Trump story and media bias makes the news. Who is Taylor Swift in bed with this week? Yeah, it's cheap sensational content, why does it warrant the level of coverage it's given in Irish media. That's just one narrow aspect of the debate, what does the term public service broadcasting even mean any more?

    The RTE corporate governance and funding issues even if resolved, still leave us with the question unanswered, does RTE exist to be served by the public or provide public service?

    Net Zero means we are paying for the destruction of our economy and society in pursuit of an unachievable and pointless policy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,490 ✭✭✭csirl


    KB out with a megaphone on the RTE campus..... cringeworthy

    Talk about being out of touch.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,617 ✭✭✭jmcc



    The Irish radio and TV markets never evolved properly because of the gombeenery of FF/FG/Labour. With the US, the market for both is very different. The same goes for the UK and many other European countries. RTE, due to its near monopoly position, essentially stopped competition until cable and satellite TV entered the TV market. The Pirate Radio stations changed the commercial radio market but the gombeens in FF/FG/Labour nearly destroyed that.

    Does Ireland need a public service broadcaster? Yes. Is RTE that broadcaster? Not in its current format. @RoTelly outlined a very good path for what could be done with RTE and broadcasting in Ireland. The problem is that too many politically connected people in RTE might lose their overpaid jobs in such a reorganisation. There seems to be little political appetite from FFG to change anything.

    Regards...jmcc

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    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,617 ✭✭✭jmcc


    There needs to be clarifcation of exactly what is wrong with her and how it prevents her appearance before the committees. Any written submission will be lawyered to Hell and back and would be unlikely to provide any insight into what she did as DG.

    Regards...jmcc

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,424 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    She retired in August and sailed off into the sunset without a care in the world.

    Do you think that the Senior managers under Dee Forbes call each other every now and again and reminisce about the times they had living the life on the taxpayer money, like going for a meal in Phibsboro before a concert in Croke Park and then having a bus waiting to take them from Phibsboro to Croke Park. Jaysus they couldn't be seen mixing with the riff raff walking to the concert.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,633 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    It is the same old stuff from RTÉ.

    We need more money etc etc

    The staff don't realize that many of them are part of the problem, not just at a high level but also because the fail to say anything to anyone.

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,633 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    No she was retiring at the end of 2023, so no technically she didn't get a golden handshake but also she is now in receipt of a very nice pension.

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,755 ✭✭✭Damien360


    It would be lovely to know but would you allow your employer know the medical reasons for your absence outside of providing a sick note. They will send you to the doctor but they won’t tell your employer either. So that ain’t happening and she knows it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,617 ✭✭✭jmcc


    She's refusing to appear before an Oireachtas committee. She should be compelled. This is more than a simple employees sick note.

    Regards...jmcc

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,755 ✭✭✭Damien360


    What legal powers has that committee got to compel anyone to appear ? It’s in the interest of those currently employed by the state or semi-state to turn up but after that I can’t see them legally compelling anyone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,617 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Cannot cite the exact legislation but the committees have the power to compell witnesses. The offer of written answers or a virtual appearance has been mentioned in the last Media committee proceedings.

    Regards...jmcc

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,755 ✭✭✭Damien360


    I’ll take your word for it but didn’t we have a failed referendum for that. The legal guys were going to loose some earnings and made sure the committees didn’t get legal powers. It was in light of tribunal costs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,617 ✭✭✭jmcc




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,617 ✭✭✭jmcc


    I think that the failed referendum would have granted more powers to these committees. Mattie McGraths's solution is looking more sensible by the day.

    Regards...jmcc

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,860 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Another massive golden handshake to a senior exec at HSE for poor performance. Maybe the government are trying to normalise these payments now?

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 854 ✭✭✭kazamo



    The committees have been hinting at these powers for years but have never exercised them.

    When Rehab were being grilled by the PAC we heard all about attendance being mandatory from Mary Lou and Shane Ross.

    Then Angela Kearns went to the courts, the State defence was that attendance was optional. And now the Politicans are moaning because some people are opting not to attend, can’t have it both ways.

    If the Politicans had the power to compel Dee Forbes they would have used it by now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,424 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    Coveney really did make a complete pigs ear of that.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,617 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,633 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Here is the dreamer in me regarding The Toy Show.

    I never understood why they put so much money into the set over the years and then not to use it. Perhaps TLLS could have been used to produce sets for the Young People's department to use.

    ______

    In the end they were just greedy, they all knew one another and knew what to expect more money for no return, it was a secure cash flow, but in fairness they looked for what they wanted and fair dues to them for that, and wouldn't you be doing the same!

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 854 ✭✭✭kazamo


    It seems as if RTE payments weren’t really out of kilter with how the state operates……but the shock and gasps from our political classes will be more muted with this revelation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,617 ✭✭✭jmcc


    RTE inefficiencies? Multiple people doing the same job? It is hard not to be cynical about all this.

    Regards...jmcc

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,031 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    I'm not quite following that article... they were going to have the kids make the toys?

    :)

    They were going to get the moppets who sing on the Late Late Toy Show to also do the musical \ performances?

    Should have just out sourced it to Billie Barry like in the old days.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,190 ✭✭✭gifted


    What they should do is freeze all their assets.....no access to any pension or bank account.....be given a certain amount each week until all enquiries are complete.....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,716 ✭✭✭skimpydoo


    A good friend of mine was the founder of BLB (Bray Local Broadcasting) now known as East Coast FM. They were taken to court for not having a licence to operate. When BLB's barrister asked to see RTE's licence, it could not be produced as RTE did not have one and there was no way of getting one. The case then collapsed and BLB became the first station to get a broadcasting licence. Since then countless others licences have been issued and 2FM has found it hard to compete with other stations.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,617 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Wouldn't put it past them to have the kids make the toys. :)

    Regards...jmcc

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,617 ✭✭✭jmcc


    The sad thing was that Ireland had a growing local radio market and the gombeens in FF/FG/Lab nearly destroyed it.

    Regards...jmcc

    Regards…jmcc



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,031 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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