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What’s your most controversial opinion? **Read OP** **Mod Note in Post #3372**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,034 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    I'm not having this. I said: "Turns out net Irish migration was zero last year when you consider the ones leaving and the ones returning. About 30,000 left and about 30,000 returned in 2023".

    I'm not sure whether you misunderstand the term net or migration or both. Nobody with half a brain would read that and think I'm suggesting the same people emmigrated and immigrated in the same year.

    You called my posting the stat dishonest and its because you though it meant the same 30,000 people went and returned in the same year. Make a balls of understanding it all you want, but don't call it dishonest because you don't understand it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭BoardsBottler


    No no, not at all. i said regardless of if it means the same OR not. The point he made still stands regardless of either of those meanings.

    it does'nt matter if 30,000 or 60,000 came to ireland, or returned, or whatever way you want to word it. This is why i said the stats don't matter. i am not calling you dishonest, i'm saying using all that as a response to grayfox is dishonest, as its invalid. His point was getting at the education system and why not to fund it, or the kids escaping ireland as soon as they can after school for work/money pursue/better life. You then responsed to him about that 30,000 thing. That is what i'm calling dishonest. Not you but the argument itself. That point does'nt counter his.

    They just want the quick easy money cash grab recyclables and to up their recycling stats at your expense.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,947 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    IVF should be banned. There is no point in an over populated world



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,313 ✭✭✭randd1


    On the contrary, I think IVF is a good thing. Because you know damn well them children are going to be cared for no matter what. And any couple I know that have had IVF are still together, and utterly dedicated to their kids. Plus, they never have too many of them, virtually every one of them limit themselves to 2 kids.

    Ideally if you want to limit population, then chemical contraception, male or female, should be mandatory until you're 23 at least. A little bit dystopian, but certainly would be better all round for everyone have lived some of their life before they have children.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,947 ✭✭✭Ray Palmer


    A western born child is a huge drain on resources. IVF is absolutely no guarantee the child will be loved as it may be a partner is forced by another. I know people with IVF children who broke up just like couples who planned a child. It is also very upsetting for those when it doesn't work along with the huge cost. Then you have the birth defects as a result too.

    I am not saying limit the population just there is absolutely no reason to have IVF given the world is over populated as is. There are orphans and foster children needing parents as is.



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Car insurance shouldnt be mandatory in ireland.

    The costs are absolutely extortionate for people.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭BoardsBottler


    Here is a controversial opinion: every year during the time the elections would normally take place, they should scrap the election process entirely and have the candidates fight it out in like a boxing match or mma or something and then the winner gets to be tea shock, or taesearch or whatever its called. Have it arranged like an knock-out style bracket tournament. Simular to how the FA cup in soccer is ran, an elimination based type of thing.

    They just want the quick easy money cash grab recyclables and to up their recycling stats at your expense.



  • Posts: 7,272 ✭✭✭ Zander Shallow Terminology


    becuase most people don’t bother and therefore the rest of us pay ridiculous money.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,240 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Nickelback are a good band



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,403 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl


    Because it is mandatory, the government should provide an insurance system, and not leave it to private companies.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,617 ✭✭✭Tork


    People who sign off on every single one of their boards posts as if they're writing a letter should be sitebanned. e.g. Regards....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭BoardsBottler


    yeah true, but if it's called a post, then does'nt that kind of imply that its a letter? Could be just noobs, or real life people not used to the internet or those who think they are sending it off into cyberspace, and take the cyberspace part a bit too litrelly. Probably even call it "the web" :D in that case i'm surprised they don't stamp the top right corner of it like they would a letter.

    ~yours sincerely

    -BoardsBottler

    They just want the quick easy money cash grab recyclables and to up their recycling stats at your expense.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,032 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Both sides of the Ukrainian War lie, the Russians are just far worse at it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,987 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    ...tis war after all, everyone becomes a bullsh1tter.....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,034 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    Yeah neither side in a war is really obliged to tell the truth. Propaganda is a weapon of war. Some choose to stick close to the truth in the things they choose to talk about, but they would never choose to talk about truths that don't suit them. Both sides will rubbish whatever the other side says.

    We (the west) choose not to be too critical of Ukranian propaganda. In contrast we also choose not to be too critical of isreali Propaganda. How many times gave you heard death toll numbers disputed because "you can't believe hamas health ministry numbers". On the other hand we have Isreal propagandists on TV to watch them tell us black is white for entertainment sometimes.

    If you choose to uncritically believe either side in a war, you're choose who to be deceived by.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,143 ✭✭✭mrslancaster


    Music concerts should not be allowed in public parks (unless they are free)

    Our parks are free for everyone to enjoy and nobody should be denied access to a park at any time because some music promoter wants more profits.

    Our councils shouldn't facilitate private business closing off a public space to large cohorts of people.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,654 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    There should be , if not already , a full life option for evil basterds who commit heinous crimes .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,803 ✭✭✭Sgt Hartman


    If Ireland was still in the grip of the church and if the Magdalene Laundries and Industrial Schools were still operative, I could imagine there would be tens of thousands of people fleeing the country to try seek asylum elsewhere.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,166 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    I have no sympathy for the hospitality industry when that pub in Dublin is trying to justify charging €10 for a pint.

    Spain is a far bigger tourist hot-spot, yet they don't price gouge visitors.

    I'm sure you'll hear about overheads and VAT rates. Blah blah blah.

    Greed, pure and simple.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭BoardsBottler


    exactly! the price gouging has gotten out of control. was already bad enough prior to covid. any excuse these days to raise prices. and the politicians and radio stations have an absolute cheek to criticize people who cross the boarder to do their christmas shopping in the north. to be fair i don't blame them going up north for cheaper stuff.

    They just want the quick easy money cash grab recyclables and to up their recycling stats at your expense.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,822 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    Middled aged, cis, whyte men are the biggest snowflakes in the Irish online “sphere”.

    EmmetSpiceland: Oft imitated but never bettered.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,046 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    It's one of those things about Ireland that seems normal to the Irish but in reality it demonstrates how normal alcoholism is😀



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭RobbieTheRobber


    Obviously you have never stopped for a beer in las ramblas.

    "Food and drinks on the Ramblas

    As a general rule, you should avoid the bars and restaurants on La Rambla because they are of poor quality and ridiculously overpriced. Some establishments can charge up to €10 for a beer or a Coca Cola, which sell for around €2.50 elsewhere in Barcelona"

    Most self proclaimed free speech absolutists are giant big whiny snowflakes!



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,328 Mod ✭✭✭✭spacetweek


    Italy is the same. If a restaurant in Rome has a view of a piazza or famous landmark from the outside tables, expect to pay double.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,803 ✭✭✭Sgt Hartman


    Anywhere in Paris is insane for a beer also. The vast majority of places charge €10 plus for a beer. The cheapest pint I found there was a pint of Kronenbourg in a sports bar near the Moulin Rouge for €6.50 and that was back in early 2017.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,166 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    There's a big difference between Las Ramblas, one of the most famous avenues in the world, Rome and Paris, two of THE iconic global cities, charging more to exploit their location/historic setting and fecking Temple Bar, the Disneyland of fake Irishness, doing so.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,656 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder I suppose. I guess if you are from Rome or Barcelona, Temple Bar might appear a great spot.

    As for the price of pints, I'd agree that €10 is far too much, no matter whether you are in Dublin, Rome or Barcelona.

    Those cities always lead Dublin when it came to prices for drink, especially if you were in the tourist traps.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,654 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    This country has always fcuked their average person over and we accept it . The price gouging when the Euro came in was outrageous . Now pubs claim they have to pass everything on to the customers .. The government ? Bertie thought that people weren’t paying enough to keep the elite ( politicians from councillors up ) in the manner they had become accustomed to .Rather than pay people in the blue collar jobs their dues ( decent pay , holidays and security of tenure ) they were entitled to he sold the farm to his business buddies . It can’t be undone now otherwise you’re just double fcuking the people who worked and payed their dues . He and his cronies of both parties deserve the came fate handed ou to other criminals .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,063 ✭✭✭BoardsBottler


    thank you for posting that about the gouging when euro prices came in. i'm book marking this comment as there was alot of gaslighting going on at one point during this thread or another where there was 5 people ganging up on me and outright lying/denying any price gouging happened, and that no one else believes there ever was any price gouge happening around the time. They almost convinced me it was a mandella effect.

    They just want the quick easy money cash grab recyclables and to up their recycling stats at your expense.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,569 ✭✭✭Cordell


    There would be no online sphere, no Internet, no computers without all those white middle aged men who invented virtually every single thing we would not even imagine life without today. Middle aged white men should be worshipped as the gods that they are.



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