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Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,178 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    all the media needs to go re-watch what Catherine Martin said on RTE PT last night. https://www.rte.ie/player/series/prime-time/SI0000000825?epguid=IH10002396-24-0011 she didn't say she didn't know about anything about the exit packages in October, she was complaining about what happened this week.

    the entire press conference was people trying to trip Martin up on something she didn't say.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭Rubberchikken


    Rte just trying to pass the buck imo.

    And yeah minutes, actual official genuine minutes would be hand from all these meetings if board members heads are so woolly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 29,746 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    A big part of the problem here is Martin is an exceptionally bad communicator herself.

    I've rewatched her performance on PT here - she (just as in the press conference) is trying her best to actually say or commit to nothing, but her insistence on how she wants to meet the Chair to give her a chance to explain herself while refusing to answer what the outcome of that would be is obviously going to lead to conclusions that she was for the chop.

    Both sides are as bad as each other really and it could all have been cleared up with written minutes of the various conversations rather than the apparent overreliance of recollections about who said what and when.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Not up to the job and the depth of her brief. Her biggest success has been giving a few bob every week to her pals, the 'artistes' and that's about it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,957 ✭✭✭StrawbsM


    I’ve been out of working in an office environment for a good while now (had to take up a carer role). Does nobody follow up important conversations with a “details of call” email anymore? Nobody write in their diary the particulars of important calls.

    And….. did the secretary not email the minister saying “Sionn called for ya - they had an RTÉ meeting yesterday and blah blah blah?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,667 ✭✭✭jippo nolan


    Did that few Bob include pi#s artistes?

    asking for a friend!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 694 ✭✭✭The wonderfish


    Thing is that Ni Ragallaidh has history of forgetting things…..didn’t she forget to tell the Minister that she had accepted (conveniently) Forbes resignation?? She should have got the road there and then. Martin is a disaster but Ni Ragallaidh is absolutely not trustworthy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,196 ✭✭✭csirl


    Retired Sec Gen has no skin in the game - so probably the most reliable account of what happened.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,531 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Seems to be a bit of a last ditch attempt by FFG to retain Martin even though she is clearly out of her depth. SF's move is a bit more damaging for FFG and Martin than calling for a MONC.

    Regards...jmcc

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,582 ✭✭✭skimpydoo




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,531 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Officially requested that Martin appears before the Dail to answer questions.

    It seems to have gotten missed in the rest of the coverage. Getting Martin before the Dail will keep the ball rolling on the mess.

    Regards...jmcc

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭Rubberchikken


    Resign so that she can't or won't be held accountable for anything now.

    They all take the easy way out and the govt is allowing it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,658 ✭✭✭fplfan12345


    What kind of money will she receive when she’s out of the job ?

    In terms of entitlements, if there are indeed any



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,531 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,658 ✭✭✭fplfan12345


    Sorry. I misunderstood who he was talking about.

    I thought he was referring to Martin.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,531 ✭✭✭jmcc


    From memory, she'll get a ministerial pension in the future. There's a payoff/disappointment money if she loses her seat in the next GE. Then there's always the chance she'll be appointed to some state board.

    Regards...jmcc

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,024 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Clever move. Siun was more than happy to attend Oireachtas committee meetings and answer questions. If Martin hides from the Dail, the optics will be terrible.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,531 ✭✭✭jmcc


    This is the problem with the "one for everyone in the audience" approach to appointing people like Martin. The MONC would have occupuied the news cycle for a few days and when it was lost due to the FFG majority, it would have been forgotten. In moving to bring Martin before the Dail, SF has effectively sidestepped the MONC trap. PBP has also asked for Martin to be brought before the Dail for questioning.

    Martin is, as has been pointed out above, a very poor communicator. The spectacle of her appearing in the Dail will be far more damaging for her, and FFG, than Ni Raghallaigh. The idea that Martin knows little of corporate politics and is completely out of her depth is reinforced every time she speaks on this issue. The only upside for FFG is that it takes the focus off the Immigration issue and the Housing issue for a while.

    Regards...jmcc

    Post edited by jmcc on

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,396 ✭✭✭mattser




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,196 ✭✭✭csirl


    The Minister is the sole shareholder in RTE i.e. the owner.

    Normally where the Board of a company locks heads with the owner, there is only one outcome.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55 ✭✭elacsap


    Just so I understand things better, can anyone confirm any of the following please?

    1. Was Bakhurst at the meeting with Siún and Catherine Martin on Monday of this week?
    2. Was Bakhurst at the meeting with Siún and Catherine Martin on Wednesday this week?
    3. Did Martin say on Thursday that she was appraised of the "situation" by one of her officials on Thursday?
    4. Did Bakhurst say that the legal advice that he got this week regarding confidentiality was broadly a reconfirmation of similar advice received a few months ago?
    5. Did Simon Harris (on Claire Byrne yesterday) say that RTE should publish the total severance payments paid to executives this year?
    6. Is Martin very annoyed (as reported by RTE) that a severance payment was made to Coveney when she had understood that he had simply resigned of his own volition?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,930 ✭✭✭KaneToad


    To the best of my knowledge:

    1. Yes

    2. Yes

    3. No. I think she referred to the dept being informed about "the process". This passing of information was so insignificant to dept Sec Gen that she didn't make a note of it. RTE chair seems to attach more significance to it. It seems to be a he said/she said scenario as we have no transcript or recording of the call. (Or do we??)

    4. Yes. Legal advice to RTE is to not ignore the confidentiality agreements.

    5. Yes he did. He wanted a total figure. He stated that this would preserve confidentiality. Not sure RTE legal advice would agree.

    6. Don't know.



  • Posts: 8,532 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Its public money. Do any sort of NDA's or the like go out the window. Full exit payments should be revealed immediately.

    I suspect KB is heading for cover.

    Really at this point serious debate is needed to disband RTE in its current format.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,531 ✭✭✭jmcc


    Multitasking and not doing it very well. Might also need a new keyboard.

    Regards...jmcc

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 480 ✭✭Ted222


    The RTE chair position pays 31,500.


    Why would anyone put themselves in the firing line for that money



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 371 ✭✭backwards_man


    On #3, there has been no evidence produced that information was passed to the sec gen. She has denied it happened according the Catherine martin at the press conference. The only person who says it happened is Siun ni R. Apparently the meeting minutes of the comp review committee from back in Oct state Siun's intention to notify the minister. This jogged her memory last Thursday and she claims she did notify. Who knows what really happened. The sec gen would have to be very incompetant not to attach significance to that as it would have been the first time in this whole mess that an exit package was aprroved by the head of the board. Siun ni R has thrown the ex sec gen under the bus and basically has accused her of not passing on information to the minister. Why the minister has not made a meal of this and defended her ex sec gen and her department shows how weak the minister is and how bad a communicator she is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,807 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    hse next folks, if you think theres problems with rte!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55 ✭✭elacsap



    Thanks very much for confirming KaneToad - I'll wanted to fact-check those points before commenting further. (Probably later today, need to do a few chores first!)

    One apology. I worded question 3 badly.

    What I wanted to know/ask was did Martin say on Thursday that she only became aware that day (i.e. Thursday) that the information given to her by Siún (on Monday and again on Wednesday) were incorrect as a result of being told this by one of her officials on Thursday? [It's clear that it was Siún herself that told Martin on Thursday - I'm just seeking to confirm that Martin initially claimed on Thursday that she learned about the misinformation from one of her officials]



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 852 ✭✭✭gossamerfabric


    Becuase you can "potentially" direct license fee funding to the media companies and service providers which RTE commission and contract to.

    Someone working for a company on the Board would not want a slimmed down RTE operating only one TV and one radio station because after the in-house produced material is broadcast there are no free slots for content provided by their companies.

    Moya and Siún should never have been on the board once they became involved with production companies...conflict of interest.

    I make no allegations of wrong doing against any present or former member of the board.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 13,024 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Playback did a good recap this morning. It really is a shiit show.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth house?



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