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Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 38,419 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    No chance. She was at the end of a non-renewable fixed term contract and had already in effect left (she was using up accumulated holidays) when she "resigned". She got paid in accordance with her contract. She has no case.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,718 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    The press really are behind. Tweets saying RTÉ is going contact those that left since 2016.

    I didn't read the full articles but I am guessing names were not mention

    Frances Abeton, Brian Dalton, Glen Killane, Willie O'Reilly, Jon William and Murine Laffan 


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,718 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    It actually worse than that. TBH. RTÉ2 has little to no Irish programming outside of sport. Same for the player if you want to argue that route.


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,228 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    Maybe he'd write a musical?

    (Sung to the tune of "The Greatest Show" from The Greatest Showman)


    [Verse 1]

    Ladies and gents, this is the moment you've waited for

    The night of the year, when we bring you something more

    Than just a show, it's a spectacle, a musical extravaganza

    But don't ask us how much it cost, 'cause we don't have an answer


    [Chorus]

    Whoa, we're the Toy Show, the Toy Show

    We're everything you ever want, we're everything you ever need

    And it's here right in front of you, this is where you wanna be

    We're the Toy Show, the Toy Show

    We light up the screen, we make you laugh, we make you cry

    But we don't care about the budget, we just spend it till it's dry

    [Chorus]

    Whoa, we're the Toy Show, the Toy Show

    We're everything you ever want, we're everything you ever need

    And it's here right in front of you, this is where you wanna be

    We're the Toy Show, the Toy Show

    We light up the screen, we make you laugh, we make you cry

    But we don't care about the budget, we just spend it till it's dry


    [Bridge]

    But what you don't know, is that we lost 2.2 million

    On a musical that flopped, it was a disaster

    But we don't regret it, we don't apologize

    We just move on, we just ignore the cries

    Of the taxpayers, the license payers, the ones who fund our show

    They don't matter, they don't understand, they don't know what we know

    That we're the Toy Show, the Toy Show

    We're the greatest show on earth


    [Chorus]

    Whoa, we're the Toy Show, the Toy Show

    We're everything you ever want, we're everything you ever need

    And it's here right in front of you, this is where you wanna be

    We're the Toy Show, the Toy Show

    We light up the screen, we make you laugh, we make you cry

    But we don't care about the budget, we just spend it till it's dry

    We're the Toy Show

    , the Toy Show

    We're the greatest show on earth



  • Posts: 9,954 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Rory is probably the unknow person who 'finished off' the Toy Show script.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,460 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Why did Bakhurst enter into a confidentiality agreement and why was the handshake deal so ridiculously high when the station is broke?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,782 ✭✭✭Pa ElGrande


    The print media owners are definitely vocal in their criticism of RTE, the people who work for said companies less so, they need to keep their job prospects open.

    Net Zero means we are paying for the destruction of our economy and society in pursuit of an unachievable and pointless policy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,718 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    I because it looks bad.

    Some one in Human Resource could provide a better outline of the issues on the Firing of people from a company, RTÉ had choices: -

    1. Large payment to move the person along quickly (they choose this)
    2. Consider Dismal paying out minimum 12 weeks severance due to the dismissal (there are a range of reasons you can be dismissed on)
    3. Consider gross misconduct (no payment required here)

    The first is the easy option, the second 2 could have Richard and Rory bring you to the WRC, but let them, it would be then in the public domain, I don't think either Rory or Richard would want that, and what if they lost?

    But perhaps there is more, we prob should read the advice give to RTÉ, in that press release.


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    If they are being audited I would like a company from outside the state to do it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,902 ✭✭✭thomas 123


    I agree, we saw what happened the last auditor that tried to do a good job - they changed auditor. Remember the emergency call they got st paddys day that something was up? All of a sudden a new auditor brought in.. hmmmmmm



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,145 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    Option 1 suits everyone. The folks walk away with a payout and out of the mess and RTE get rid of them and both don't have to air their dirty washing in the WRC.

    By right option 1 in this case should be off the table and in future sure not exist and option 2 becomes the main option. If people do feel they have a grievance then and if the company feels they have done nothing wrong then let them go fight it out in the WRC.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,718 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    The letters telling RTÉ to retain confidential do not actually show why RTÉ decided offer either Richard or Rory, on what legal grounds they might have been brought into the WRC.


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,145 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    We all know that their positions became untenable after initial PAC hearing. It seems that Backhurst wanted rid of them as quickly as he could and thought paying them off the easiest and cheapest way to get rid of them. I don't know what the employment details were of both of them were they on contracts or permanent employess, if on contracts, then how long did they have left and could they have been moved to the garden at montrose till the contract ran out and then let go with nothing. I don't know what legal grounds they could go to the WRC and also RTE may not have wanted to go to the WRC either and have god knows what else exposed as well as dragging this out longer.

    I think Backhurst just wanted to clean house and try move on from this as quickly as possible and get on with running RTE and the best way was to pay these 2 off. To me all of the Senior management involved in this with the exception of Aine O'Leary positions became untenable with what was revealed and the behavior of them and I think a few more will go.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,718 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    I can understand why Bakhurst would want to get rid of both as quickly as possible and start fresh.

    But the legal advise that he has provided has nothing to do with the exit package he and the board signed off on. Rather it is about the confidentiality of those exit packages.

    If Bakhurst and RTE don't want to end up in the WRC then why not offer everyone a good exit package?

    Would Rory or Richard want to go to the WRC? It would put it largely into the public domain, why they were fired and how much they were paid.

    Did Bakhurst and the board ever think of just dismissing them under a Dismal or under Gross Negligence ? were these options raised?

    Seems RTÉ had no negotiating hand? This does sound right.


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,145 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    In my opinion in with Coveney and Collins is suited all sides to to go down this route. We can only speculate why but to me it looks like RTE weren't sure they would win or are hiding something and didn't want to be exposed. To a person like me if there is nothing to hide from RTE why didn't RTE sack them and then let them take RTE to the WRC. Then you could get in conspiracy theories because of one the people involved was some pressure put on to just get that person out the glare before people start asking more questions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,285 ✭✭✭Rubberchikken


    It's a small community of execs in rte and no doubt in each other's pockets in work, and outside work.

    Dublin and it's environs might like to convince the rest of us that's it's a big metropolis but in reality in a city with a large number of people and then an area with a particular set of people. People who live in a whole different world to most regular folk.

    Rte seems to breed an arrogant mentality that is disgusting tbh.

    They have truly gotten above themselves and I don't think PAC is capable of changing that.



  • Posts: 1,338 ✭✭✭ Veda Gray Toddler


    It's a fairly small city by any international standards, with one significant publicly owned broadcaster that is so up its own rear end that it imagines its the BBC crossed with Hollywood, yet could never even manage to do a couple of regional versions and regularly talks like it's local Dublin TV/Radio.

    I'd be a lot less annoyed with RTE if they'd just overspent on public service broadcasting activities, but that's not what they're spending money on. It's over inflated salaries, ludicrous projects and lashing the cash.

    They need to have it driven home that they are a public service broadcaster in a small country, not the equivalent of some big commercial outfit with huge audiences like NBC, Sky or ITV.

    Not only that, but it's up against serious and rapidly expanding competition not just from Virgin Media TV, but from UK broadcasters and serious international players and all the streamers.

    It could be doing so much more for promoting and selling Irish produced drama and all sorts of things, but ... instead it seems to live in some kind of D4 La La land.

    It isn't 1961, 1981 or even 1991. Nobody is sitting at home in two channel land anymore.

    A serious reality check is needed in Donnybrook and it needs to start with asking the question: What is RTÉ...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,952 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    When you hear about the goings on at the FAI, you have to wonder whether every government funded entity is corrupt and wasteful. Do they all need to be probed? Successive FF and FG government have allowed a free for all and toothless committees have only found out about major malpractice by accident. It's utterly depressing.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,006 ✭✭✭ShamNNspace


    Ah the time for probing is over, what they need is a good old fashioned see-ing to, followed by an all merciful boot in the hole to land them into the middle of next week, it might bring them back to reality



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,395 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    I agree - what's with these publicly funded bodies like FAI and RTE that are exposed to have poor corporate governance and dodgy accounting. They get a good kick up the arse, are told to reform but carry on with some of the same poor corporate governance and dodgy accounting. It seems to be a cultural thing in them, that the leopard can't change it's spots. In cases like this, you begin to think the humane solution is a bullet.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,145 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    I agree but its needs to be done for them all including politicians, the political parties, government departments and then those government funded entities/agencies. Every single one has been caught up in something, the only that doesn't ever seem to be caught up in anything is the Revenue.

    You just know the going ons at the FAI and RTE are barely even making a scratch on what's going on, imagine what's going on in the HSE.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,333 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Mr Bakhurst has defended the practice of the two producers being paid separately by another arm of RTÉ for working on the project.

    “I am told in their spare time they were working on Toy Show The Musical and were paid separately for that, doing both,” he said on RTÉ’s SixOne News.

    Mr Bakhurst said the two producers were “extremely talented”.

    The producers were also granted artists' tax exemptions for their work on Toy Show The Musical.

    Hands up who believes they were only working on the TSTM in their spare time (you could be forgiven for thinking it might have actually been so considering the shambles it was)

    Was this not under the remit of RTE and therefore should have been the full time job of those involved. Something doesn't add up.

    Bakhurst digging a little bit more of his own grave



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,942 ✭✭✭CH3OH


    I think Siún will be next.. for the chop


    RTE news : Minister 'disappointed' over approval of exit package


    http://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2024/0222/1433707-rte-exit-payments/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,790 ✭✭✭saabsaab




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 11,952 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Catherine Martin has had 8 months to get her head around the RTE scandal. What the hell was she at? She hasn't a scooby doo what went on. I suppose she should request a bunch more reports. Inept is not the word.

    Is there an ounce of management ability in her? Get into RTE and bang some heads together!!

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,333 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    It's just one thing after another - the incompetence knows no bounds



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 917 ✭✭✭DrZeuss


    In fairness, the people she is questioning also have no clue what's going on in RTE. Lads with no clue what they even earn sure. They are all well matched.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,460 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    The whole board should have been sacked ages ago.

    Bakhurst also in trouble.

    They have lied to the Minister constantly probably because Catherine Martin, who seems like a nice person, is out of her depth and not properly representing the tax payer. Her own position is in question through all of this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,460 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Siun and Bakhurst formed a little club when they got together last summer.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 914 ✭✭✭nolivesmatter


    She's completely taking the piss. The coward should be summonsed now.



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