Hamas strike on Israel - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

I am afraid one has to do better than a single map.

That is a big reach in fairness to say that Israel wants to occupy, thus kill all the Palestinians in Israel because of a single map.

The talks going on behind the scenes is trying to lay out how Gaza is going to be run after this war. Id rather stick to facts and logic around that, rather than conjecture and loose correlations.

preferably they should have secured their borders and there would have been no october 7th attack at all.

however ultimately, the reaction would be special forces raids to get back hostages and the bombing of visible hamas military equipment.

what is happening now is not a reaction to october 7th, but a genocide so as to steal and colonise gaza, like they are doing in the west bank.

israel have lost what little credibility it had, it has failed all of its claimed objectives, it has lost the support of so many people like never before, it has made the october 7th attack irrelevant because people are focused on their genocide of the gazan people.

Possibly, but you don't fight 3 wars, lose them all, and then claim to go back to the start. That ship has sailed.

It's the 1967 borders that are at stake here

Israel just bombed a food aid centre run by UNRWA. Cos, you know Hamas, or tunnels, or beheaded babies or some such shite:

Ramy Abdu| رامي عبده on X: "Breaking: Moments ago, the Israeli army bombed the UNRWA workshop in Jabalia refugee camp, which is the only place designated by the Popular Committee for Refugee Affairs to distribute some food assistance to the camp. #GazaGenocide" / X (twitter.com)

There is pretty much zero chance that Israel would give up its West bank settlements (barring some extreme political recalibration in the White House). Or the Golan Heights, which people tend to forget about.

Here's another Israeli politician being every explicit about the plan, based on a similar map to the one that Netanyahu presented.

I had a quick search and he doesn't appear to be in the current govt, but it appears to be a widely held expectation.

Terrorism tourism!

No difference between a fat yank headed over to join the IDF and some muslim that went off to fight for ISIS. Should receive the same treatment

Powerful video from Bassem Youssef

Expected by whom, as the guy appears to be a mad crank of the highest order. I can't ever see him ever being elected to public office, so to call him a politician, is a label he put on himself.

Ah, here it is.

Yea, I am sure he is going to get far with 0.01% of the vote for his "Bible Bloc Party".

4.76 million people voted in the 2022 Kinneset election. Only 411 voted for Dennis Lipkin.

So, I'll repeat. Who is expecting him to be not only elected but also a government minister?

their genocide has caused them to lose a lot of their forces on the ground as the IDF are a badly trained army at the best of times.

special forces teams don't always have huge numbers so chances are the losses would be a lot lower if they acted like grownups instead of committing genocide.

Very powerful

Zaka = ghouls

Settlers gonna settle, ICJ hearing testimony (including Ireland's AG) and democrats ask Biden to ramp up efforts.

Dozens of settlers from the West Bank settlement of Yitzhar threw stones and tried to torch several houses in the Palestinian village of Asira al-Qibliya, according to an Israeli security official. Israeli security forces were dispatched to the village, but no arrests were made.

At the ongoing International Court of Justice hearing on Israel's occupation of Palestinian territories, China said the occupation was illegal.

Thirteen Jewish House Democrats urged U.S. President Biden to redouble his efforts to facilitate a temporary cease-fire, their most pronounced efforts to date.

Turkish Foreign Minister Hakan Fidan called on the international community to take a more active role towards an urgent cease-fire in Gaza and a two-state solution during talks at the G20 summit in Brazil, a Turkish diplomatic source said.

Heard today on the radio that data modelling predicts 85,000 Palestinians will die in the next couple of months from injuries, disease and starvation - particularly children.

So that will be 200,000 dead and injured - 10% of the population of Gaza. On percentages, that'll be 140,000 women and children.

Israel = Genocidal terrorist State. This will stain them forever.

Haaretz:

Israel is seeking Palestinians not affiliated with Hamas to manage civilian affairs in areas designated as testing grounds for a post-war administration in Gaza, according to a senior Israeli official, who added the plan would exclude anybody on the payroll of the Palestinian Authority.

A new U.S. intelligence assessment found it is "likely" that some UNRWA employees took part in Hamas' October 7 assault on Israel, the Wall Street Journal reported, adding that "the U.S. can't verify Israeli allegations that a larger number of UN workers have links to militant groups."

UNRWA has no "plan B" past March should donor countries continue to suspend their funds, the head of UNRWA's Lebanon office said.

A Palestinian man being treated at a Gaza hospital for severe bruising on his face, cuts on his fingers and other injuries said Israeli soldiers beat him with chunks of masonry and chairs after bursting into his home on February 20.

The Hamas-controlled Health Ministry in Gaza said that at least 29,410 Palestinians have been killed and 69,465 wounded since the war began.

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